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Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:58 pm
by just_in
It's kinda rude that Ableton installs the driver for Push without even asking.
But if you insist on doing that, at least provide an uninstaller for it.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:22 pm
by [jur]
Why is it bothering you?
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:59 pm
by just_in
Same reason all unnecessary software bothers me. It uses additional computer resources and takes some time away from me, when I have to deal with it. Not the end of the world, just annoying.
And I'm worried that a driver could cause some other issue on my system, like interfering with other hardware or software in some way.
A checkbox in the Live installer would solve this easily.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 1:10 am
by [jur]
Fair enough.
I'm sorry I don't have the answer, though. I read reports where the driver wouldn't install (but people needed it).
I've no Windows machine to try, sorry.
If you really need to remove it then maybe ask
Support, but I suspect this won't be possible.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 6:57 am
by Rivanni
1. Open the Registry Editor using Winkey+R and typing regedit
2. Search for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ASIO\
3. Delete the Push driver.
4. Delete the folder C:\Program Files\Ableton\Push Driver.
There might be some remaining files, but the driver is not active anymore.
An uninstaller would be the best though. Must not be that hard to make since the installer is a separate setup.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 5:31 pm
by AbletonMASCHINE
I've deactivated the Push 3 driver in the Autostart...
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:50 pm
by just_in
Thanks for the suggestions.
I also found a post that describes how to install Live without the Push driver:
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p8680442
It might be useful to someone, until there's an official solution.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:31 am
by Hemipheistos
just_in wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:58 pm
It's kinda rude that Ableton installs the driver for Push without even asking.
But if you insist on doing that, at least provide an uninstaller for it.
I 100% agree with you.
Pretty unrespectful choice of business practice here.
I did not buy a "PUSH" product, i bought Ableton Live for making music with my own equipment.
And THIS will not spark any interest in any product of that "pushed" brand. Just saying. It actually induces the opposit motivation.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:34 am
by Hemipheistos
[jur] wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 7:22 pm
Why is it bothering you?
You buy a car, and you get a trailer with it attached without instructions to remove it and its not obvious how to do it.
Well, cool right ?
I would say, no. Because you can not sell it and its taxes your resources for no benefit.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:50 pm
by scruffyfox
Although I dont want to uninstall the push driver (I have a Push2) I'd love to know how I am able to uninstall the push ASIO driver. I dont have a Push3 so this is useless for me and possibly conflicting with my other ASIO drivers
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:50 pm
by itsuitsme
just_in wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:58 pm
It's kinda rude that Ableton installs the driver for Push without even asking.
But if you insist on doing that, at least provide an uninstaller for it.
Agreed, blatant disrespect and a glaring marketing _nudge_, covered as "user convenience".
Here's a proper way to completely remove the "Ableton Push Driver" (Push Control Panel) [on Windows] using MsiExec, a built-in Windows component that manipulates Windows Installer packages (Push Driver is
currently distributed as an msi):
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As of version 11.3.20 or thereabout the GUID is {2143CAA3-2BA4-4073-93D1-E440A65F42CD}
- Win+x -> Windows PowerShell (Admin)
Code: Select all
Start-Process -FilePath "cmd.exe" -ArgumentList "/c msiexec.exe /x {2143CAA3-2BA4-4073-93D1-E440A65F42CD}"
The package's GUID was {8CE98F88-3F07-4338-A036-B66414F3FD66}
- Win+x -> Windows PowerShell (Admin)
Code: Select all
Start-Process -FilePath "cmd.exe" -ArgumentList "/c msiexec.exe /x {8CE98F88-3F07-4338-A036-B66414F3FD66}"
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In case the GUID has changed:
- Win+x -> Windows PowerShell (Admin)
Code: Select all
get-wmiobject Win32_Product | Format-Table IdentifyingNumber, Name
- Find GUID (IdentifyingNumber) corresponding to Ableton Push Driver
Code: Select all
Start-Process -FilePath "cmd.exe" -ArgumentList "/c msiexec.exe /x {xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}"
To add insult to injury, making the driver removable via standard Windows interface is a matter of simply changing one flag when baking the msi, for Ableton.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 3:53 pm
by itsuitsme
scruffyfox wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:50 pm
Although I dont want to uninstall the push driver (I have a Push2) I'd love to know how I am able to uninstall the push ASIO driver. I dont have a Push3 so this is useless for me and possibly conflicting with my other ASIO drivers
Currently Push 2 Driver is distributed/installed independently and won't be removed together with the Push 3 Driver (ASIO, Control Panel..)
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:46 pm
by Splines
Totally agree with you @just_in. @Ableton Developers: I feel like this should definitely be an opt-in option during the installation/upgrade process. I even expect most users to *not* possess a Push device.
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 3:54 pm
by HowMuchNoise
It's even more surprising for german peoples to be this reckless, they usually are known for being extremely precise and careful of details, everything work and work properly generally, they will go extra miles compared to others, but I guess not this time.
Lets put the last nail in the coffin, even after uninstalling Ableton on Windows 11, the setup leave three drivers behind him, the "push" drivers of course.
This can be visible this way:
Open CMD or Terminal with Admin rights.
Type:
To delete:
Re: Uninstall Push Driver
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:44 pm
by itsuitsme
HowMuchNoise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 3:54 pm
It's even more surprising for german peoples to be this reckless, they usually are known for being extremely precise and careful of details, everything work and work properly generally, they will go extra miles compared to others, but I guess not this time.
NI's Traktor silently installs drivers for their
entire DJ hardware lineup, regardless of whether you have any of it! Germans or not -- "business" decides
