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Can someone recommend a 5 metre Usb C cable?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:50 pm
by Alex1210
I just want to use it in controller mode , any suggestions?
Thanks
Re: Can someone recommend a 5 metre Usb C cable?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:56 pm
by Angstrom
As I don't own a push I can't comment authoritatively on what works with those devices but I do have a lot of music gear on long USB cables and did all the research to figure out the power and bandwidth standards. etc.
it's very likely you need a USB 3.1 "active" cable, also called a "repeater". Repeaters use additional power to boost the signal in the cable. To counteract the cable resistance/capacitance these long cables are like a USB powered hubs with just one socket. Some Repeaters are powered via an annoying extra power socket where a wall wart plugs in. This type are to be avoided unless you have an old machine.
I use these ones which are "bus powered) meaning they draw power from the USB 3.1 bus power feature.
https://www.kenable.co.uk/en/usb-cables ... 48672.html
Up until recently USB 3 could only supply 4.5 watts of power, but USB 3.1 can supply up to 100 watts of power. So if your source (eg laptop or desktop) is specified to USB 3.1 it can supply up to 100 watts , certainly enough to bus power these type of active repeater cables.
Note though that there are many bullshit chinese fake active repeater cables which are really just USB 3 and these will give problems. The cable above has worked fine for me (with USB C hubs and audio devices on the end of 5 metre active repeaters)
Re: Can someone recommend a 5 metre Usb C cable?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:14 pm
by Alex1210
Angstrom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:56 pm
As I don't own a push I can't comment authoritatively on what works with those devices but I do have a lot of music gear on long USB cables and did all the research to figure out the power and bandwidth standards. etc.
it's very likely you need a USB 3.1 "active" cable, also called a "repeater". Repeaters use additional power to boost the signal in the cable. To counteract the cable resistance/capacitance these long cables are like a USB powered hubs with just one socket. Some Repeaters are powered via an annoying extra power socket where a wall wart plugs in. This type are to be avoided unless you have an old machine.
I use these ones which are "bus powered) meaning they draw power from the USB 3.1 bus power feature.
https://www.kenable.co.uk/en/usb-cables ... 48672.html
Up until recently USB 3 could only supply 4.5 watts of power, but USB 3.1 can supply up to 100 watts of power. So if your source (eg laptop or desktop) is specified to USB 3.1 it can supply up to 100 watts , certainly enough to bus power these type of active repeater cables.
Note though that there are many bullshit chinese fake active repeater cables which are really just USB 3 and these will give problems. The cable above has worked fine for me (with USB C hubs and audio devices on the end of 5 metre active repeaters)
Brilliant, thanks for your help
Re: Can someone recommend a 5 metre Usb C cable?
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:29 pm
by Alex1210
This didn't work unfortunately
Re: Can someone recommend a 5 metre Usb C cable?
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:50 pm
by [jur]
It's not easy to get longer USB cables. Ableton didn't designed it this length to save on cable, but to ensure a proper operation.
Re: Can someone recommend a 5 metre Usb C cable?
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:05 pm
by Alex1210
Has anyone managed to find a solution?
3 metres would be fine