CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

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CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by murry61 » Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:18 am

After installing Live 12, Standard I found CC Control MIDI effect is missing.
It is listed as included in all versions.
I did an extensive search in the folders and filters.
Is this a bug?.
Anyone else with the same issue?

Thanks

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by S4racen » Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:54 am

Its a pack that needs to be installed.
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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by chymera » Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:10 pm

No it's not a separate pack at all, it's part of Live's core MIDI effects.
If it's not showing up in the MIDI effects folder for you, then you should re-authorize Live (Preferences → License Maintenence)

If it's still not showing up after that I would recommend you get in touch with Ableton Support

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by chymera » Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:26 pm

Another thing that can cause this is if you still have Live 11 open when you installed Live 12. In that case, you should close both open versions and then re-open Live 12 only. Then hopefully the device will show up

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by murry61 » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:42 pm

Thanks !

- I didnt have open Live 11 when I installed Live 12.
- Yes, indeed It is no a separate pack
- I did my authorization correctly. Everything is in place, just CC control is missing.

I know from other 2 friends they have exactly the same issue. So very probably it is a bug.

- So, then, I would try to get in touch with Ableton Support.

Thanks again. :)

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by murry61 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:45 pm

Here is the response from Ableton Support:

Live can only build its database if only one instance of Live is running, so if you have an earlier version of Live opened, this will prevent Live 12 from properly setting up. Make sure you quit all versions of Live before running Live 12 and a computer restart could also help in case there are background processes such as the indexer hanging in the background.

Building the database is an expensive process that requires time and resources. This requires scanning and indexing of any file in your Core Library, User Library, Places, and Packs. Depending on how much content you have, this can take several hours. If you quit Live during this process, the process will restart the next time you open Live so allow time for this to happen, and don't quit if you miss content.

If the problem persists, you can try resetting Live's database: https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... s-Database

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I followed the instructions, but unfortunately, CC Control MIDI effect is still mising in my MIDI effect list.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Fakemark » Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:57 am

I'm in the same boat as you.

I contacted the support that asked me to reset the database.

After resetting the database, uninstalling everything I could Live 11 and reopening Live 12, I could see very briefly the CC Control Midi effect appearing in the effect list when Live 12 is loading then disappearing just after the full loading...

I'm still waiting answers from the support.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by murry61 » Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:43 pm

@Fakemark, i received an additional response from Ableton support to try re-authorizing Live and see if this unlocks the device. But it didn´t work. The problem remains. BTW in my case I don´t see very briefly the CC Control Midi effect appearing. I even recorded the screen to see in slow motion, but no.

Let´s look forward for answers from the support.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Ishkash » Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:57 pm

Is this my first post? I think this might be my first post. [Edit: 4th]

I TOO have been anxiously awaiting use of the new CC Control. Alas, it reveals itself but momentarily, upon fresh install of Core Library (or reset of database), only to vanish again, like a fart in the wind.

Please, Ableton...use all your powers. All your skills. I MUST HAVE MY CC CONTROL.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Rivanni » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:49 pm

This preset should load the device. You can use it until the device itself appears in the browser.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/iqd5afg5 ... tbbs8&dl=0

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Ishkash » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:47 pm

Rivanni wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:49 pm
This preset should load the device. You can use it until the device itself appears in the browser.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/iqd5afg5 ... tbbs8&dl=0
Thank you; this is considerate of you. However, it won't load on my fresh 12 Standard install.

"This device is not available in this version of Live."

Seems like a license/authorization issue. Idk.

Just FYI.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Rivanni » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:58 pm

Ishkash wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:47 pm
Rivanni wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:49 pm
This preset should load the device. You can use it until the device itself appears in the browser.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/iqd5afg5 ... tbbs8&dl=0
Thank you; this is considerate of you. However, it won't load on my fresh 12 Standard install.

"This device is not available in this version of Live."

Seems like a license/authorization issue. Idk.

Just FYI.
Strange.
I made the preset in Suite, but according to this page, the device is also available in Intro and Standard.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Fakemark » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:58 am

Thank you very much Rivanni :D !

I confirm the same behavior that Ishkash described: when opening the .adv file you shared, i have a Live information window that appears : "This device is not available in this version of Live". And yet, I purchased the "Standard" version of Live 12 as an upgrade to Live 11.

Anyway, thanks to you we nailed that the problem is a licensing issue.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Fakemark » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:16 am

Furthermore, I noticed that my past order for Live 11 Standard Upgrade does not appear in this list https://www.ableton.com/en/account/order-history/, even if I purchased it in the past as my Serial Numbers list shows it : https://www.ableton.com/en/account/.

I contacted the Ableton support with this additional information.

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Re: CC Control MIDI Effect is missing in Live 12 ?

Post by Fakemark » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:40 pm

Ok, I have the final word about this issue, from the Ableton support:

"We've discovered an issue with the CC Control Device with Live Standard users where the device is not available due to a licence related problem on our end.

This issue will be fixed in the next Live update of Live 12.0.5 as the device is currently only available to Suite users.
Unfortunately, we do not have a workaround for the meantime for Standard users and we kindly ask for your patience until the new version gets released."

Then, let's try to be patient :-)

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