Ableton arrangement window is a MESS

[TonyReed]

I did try to disable warping in preferences. You cant turn off short samples - what ever they are. And you cant turn off midi stretching.
I agree with you that Ableton is first a fore most a package that has an arrange window expecting it to be used the way you describe.
And that is great if you are making beats and loops out of samples etc - and playing in midi loops. Push is really good for that too. I wanted to miix that sort of thing with recorded audio - and not always in 4/4 And with different length loops etc. Thats where the whole package doesnt work so well.

[Street Spirit]

Yeah i agree with you about the midi warp markers. Those were introduced in 9 i believe, and they always slowed down my workflow. Now with 12, they are pretty much obsolete, because all the warping is done with the new midi generators.

[TonyReed]

Really, thats good to know. I wasn't going to bother upgrading - maybe there is more to it than I thought..