Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by Cypeace » Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:59 pm

Link please 🙂

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by Machinesworking » Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:55 am

102455 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:42 am
Ableton just posted on Twitter (aka X) that "it's coming soon". :D
Ugh, I have to be honest, I wish they would use literally any other social media platform. :x

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by 102455 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:06 am

Not a fan of the elongated muskrat? :lol:

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by Lumix » Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:12 pm

102455 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:42 am
Ableton just posted on Twitter (aka X) that "it's coming soon". :D
i cant find that post on twitter.
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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by 102455 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:58 pm

Search for ableton 12 pdf...

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by oscillik » Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:19 pm

Please bear in mind that posts on Twitter (or indeed any social media platform) should not be taken as absolute proof that it's coming (many companies have made statements via social media and then either blatantly back-tracked or conveniently forgotten about it).

However, it's hard not to see it as a good sign!

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by Lumix » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:39 am

102455 wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:58 pm
Search for ableton 12 pdf...
okay its here: hxxps://twitter.com/GroovinDJ/status/1779802646959829227
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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by PhatBob » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:13 am

I was fed up as well for not having a PDF version of L12 Manual.
I started to convert the online version with high res picts.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pijd1s ... manual+PDF

More chapter to come when I have time.

Hope it helps some of you

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by Lumix » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:44 pm

PhatBob wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:13 am
I was fed up as well for not having a PDF version of L12 Manual.
I started to convert the online version with high res picts.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pijd1s ... manual+PDF

More chapter to come when I have time.

Hope it helps some of you
thank you so much, this will do for the moment till Ableton finally will do one ... :evil:
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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by PhatBob » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:52 am

Chapter 4 added.
But I realised afterwards that "Chapter 4 Managing Files and Sets" for Live 12" is simply the Chapter 5 of Live 11.. What a shame..

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by Lumix » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:26 am

PhatBob wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:52 am
Chapter 4 added.
But I realised afterwards that "Chapter 4 Managing Files and Sets" for Live 12" is simply the Chapter 5 of Live 11.. What a shame..
it happens, thank you so much, also it looks quite good, almost like a real Ableton Live Manual. 8)
Which program did you use?
i doubt Ableton uses soemthing like LaTeX to create their Manual, its probably to much work with all the pictures and stuff.
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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by forestcaver » Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:24 pm

[jur] wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:55 pm
Ableton is indeed aware of this, knows that it's a problem for users and is working on it.
Sorry I can't provide more info about atm.
Any update on this please ? (Coming up to 4 weeks) Can you say anything as to whether Ableton will be releasing this any time soon or should we rely on community efforts if Ableton are unable to produce a written manual? Thanks a lot.

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Re: Live 12 reference manual DISCONTINUED BOOOOOO

Post by forestcaver » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:26 pm

PhatBob wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:13 am
I was fed up as well for not having a PDF version of L12 Manual.
I started to convert the online version with high res picts.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pijd1s ... manual+PDF

More chapter to come when I have time.

Hope it helps some of you
Thanks - it’s pretty pathetic of Ableton not to post here or reply regarding the manual. I cant see any twitter post saying they are working on it or that it is coming.

I guess we have to rely on users to produce a printed manual as they seem to be unable or unwilling to issue one.

Anyone know if Bitwig has a printed or pdf manual ? After many years of Ableton I am seriously considering switching to Bitwig due to this issue - it just shows a complete lack of regard and contempt of their users. Going to do some research about Bitwig now....

EDIT - just checked - Bitwig has an online *as well* as a pdf manual !!! Fantastic. Downloading a trial version now...
It’s pretty sad that if you want to read a manual for a DAW you have to drop Ableton.... not impressed !

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