Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

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Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by madebynope » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:08 pm

Wondering if anyone else is having trouble getting the Variations device in the performance pack to work?

No matter what I do, Variations just plays back a random assortment of clips, never ever has it played back the variation that I stored. Quick Stash and Recall do the same thing, I stash, make a change and when I hit Recall it's just some assortment of clips.

I haven't found any articles or posts about anyone having similar issues or even issues at all with this device. So, it leads me to wonder what I'm missing. What setting or lack there of could a user be implementing (or not) to make this device not work properly?

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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by [jur] » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:12 pm

Did you watch this detailed tutorial?
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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by madebynope » Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:46 pm

I did yes, multiple times. However, I would not say it's detailed when it comes to the Variations device. It looks extremely simple to use but, the video does not mention any settings that you need to enable/disable etc.

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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by panten » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:58 am

I can get Variations to work but it's REALLY slow (I have a really large template set). But this is a different matter.

One thing I noticed was that the Info View is really useful and got me up to speed with what all the functions of Variations are. Just hover over a button and the Info View panel will let you know what it does.

*edit* Something else to try would be open up the Variations demo set and have a look at how it's set up there.

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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by [jur] » Sun May 05, 2024 4:13 pm

panten wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:58 am
I can get Variations to work but it's REALLY slow (I have a really large template set). But this is a different matter.
Did you report this to Support?
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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by panten » Sun May 05, 2024 5:58 pm

I never did as I only tried using Variations on my absolutely gargantuan DJ template set.

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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by [jur] » Mon May 06, 2024 1:53 am

panten wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 5:58 pm
I never did as I only tried using Variations on my absolutely gargantuan DJ template set.
It's designed to be a performance oriented device, so it should work flawlessly even with very large sets.
It's actually a known issue, but more reports means we can better evaluate how many users are really impacted.
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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by panten » Mon May 06, 2024 12:59 pm

Ok, that's good to know it's a known issue. I'll make sure to make a detailed bug report when I find the time. Cheers for the head's up.
I LOVE other devices from the performance pack though

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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by adam_mc » Wed May 15, 2024 2:44 pm

It would be great if the different "snapshots" could be midi mapped. I want to be able to press a button and have a "variation" take place.

This is possible with the Ableton implementation inside Racks but sadly not with the Performance Pack and Variations.

I don't know if there is a plan to amend the Max Device to allow mapping the variation via midi?

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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by [jur] » Wed May 15, 2024 2:51 pm

adam_mc wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 2:44 pm
It would be great if the different "snapshots" could be midi mapped. I want to be able to press a button and have a "variation" take place.

This is possible with the Ableton implementation inside Racks but sadly not with the Performance Pack and Variations.

I don't know if there is a plan to amend the Max Device to allow mapping the variation via midi?
You can use clips instead, and trigger those clips via midi mapping.
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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by adam_mc » Wed May 15, 2024 3:04 pm

Yeah, I saw that.

I am after the ability to implement a variation on the fly regardless of the clip that is playing. I want the freedom to do it when I wish rather than having specific clips that require launching.

Thanks for the idea though. :D

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Re: Performance Pack: Variations Just Doesn't Work

Post by Rivanni » Fri May 17, 2024 12:20 am

adam_mc wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 2:44 pm
It would be great if the different "snapshots" could be midi mapped. I want to be able to press a button and have a "variation" take place.

This is possible with the Ableton implementation inside Racks but sadly not with the Performance Pack and Variations.

I don't know if there is a plan to amend the Max Device to allow mapping the variation via midi?
In case you didn't know: You can MIDI-map controls that select and (auto) launch variations in the popup window.
It's not the same as mapping the variations themselves, but it is better than nothing.

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