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Enter your guesses! I am extremely curious & have no idea what this could be.

https://www.ableton.com/en/move/

Manual for Live ?

forestcaver wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:04 pm

Manual for Live ?

You beat me to it!

The 8th is a Tuesday. Perhaps it will coincide with 12.1 ?

Ableton for iPad?

What I want Move to be: a more portable version of Push. I really like Push, but I'd like something that takes up less desk real estate and can easily fit into luggage for travel

What Move will most likely be: a pocket-sized tracker similar to the M8 or Polyend Tracker Mini.

Move indicates mobility, so I'm assuming that as a primary feature. If it's a smaller Push-type groovebox, I will purchase immediately. If it's a tracker, I'm going to pass. I'm not really into the tracker workflow. Either way, I'm looking forward to the October 8 reveal.

autodidackt wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:21 am

What I want Move to be: a more portable version of Push. I really like Push, but I'd like something that takes up less desk real estate and can easily fit into luggage for travel

What Move will most likely be: a pocket-sized tracker similar to the M8 or Polyend Tracker Mini.

Move indicates mobility, so I'm assuming that as a primary feature. If it's a smaller Push-type groovebox, I will purchase immediately. If it's a tracker, I'm going to pass. I'm not really into the tracker workflow. Either way, I'm looking forward to the October 8 reveal.

'Move' could also mean move knobs/ (motorized) faders. Someone on another forum said you Push buttons & Move knobs/faders. I also think a smaller version of Push that you could easily chuck in a bag & carry around would be great, but it seems odd to me that they'd go to all the trouble of recently creating a stand alone Push 3 & then undercut it by making a smaller more portable version. I agree that the font in the posters definitely seems like a very portable/tracker style device, but I was also thinking Move might be something knob/fader based that has those low res screens for each knob/fader, so you can see what each is controlling. Similar to the Novation SL MkIII series. There's a big hole that the APC40 mkII used to fill IMO, but that's been discontinued. An upgraded version with screens and flying faders straight from Ableton themselves would be amazing.

But it will probably be a tracker.

I think it will be something akin to push but similar to a circuit.

If so, instabuy.

If it has form factor of circuit but screen & encoders of push and functionality of ableton note but with all synth parameters visible like push…ooh baby.

mini mpe pads & ableton cloud built in im in love.

My Assumtion / My Vision:

Multi-Touch-Touchscreen-Contoller.

Features:

• High sensitive Multi-Touch-Screen for MPE preformance

• Size approx. 38 cm x 16cm to display at least a two octave full size Keyboard or 16 (!) Mixer Channels

• Slim is sexy

• No mechanical parts

• Touchscreen-Controller-GUI of Live

• Launch Clips, Mixer, Piano Keyboard, Performance and Controller Modes

• Connects to Push 3 standalone

• Solid Materials/Workmanship

• Upper Price range

I guess I wasn’t even imagining a controller myself. I do think faders would be nice, or keys. Ableton hasn’t offered keys before. But if I were to guess, I wouldn’t guess a massive hardware launch. Possibilities from what I saw:
-motion sensors (which are kind of done to death and never quite add much for most ppl)
-one of those common portable grid things that have been popping up from various brands (there are pixels in MOVE, could correlate to the number of buttons in grid)
-move could be like, video, ‘movie’ related… not currently one of Live’s strong points.

We know Ableton seem to have a habit of releasing single-word items.
LIVE, PUSH, NOTE, MOVE?

Another app isn’t entirely out of the question. Maybe a complimentary app that does Other functions of Live (audio based) that Note doesn’t cover (since Note is more midi sequencing)

-my last guess. A portable mic with instrument input interface. Interface can be used with Everything (mics, instruments, line, and MIDI din/usb) and is reliable, high quality, and can even record (basically a field recorder). And with it, a release of apps on multiple platforms that allow people to have fun with it. “MOVE” meaning, you can take it Anywhere, move through the world and do music.

Roli has also been teasing a product announcement for October. Not sure of the date though.

My guess is that they took the same tech used in the Push 3's MPE pads and made longer vertical pads that look and work like faders (Push 3 also gave them experience building stuff with audio interfaces).

Push's pads are more sensitive than touchstrips, and the left/right detection would allow a user to mix gain and panning at the same time, with some practice, that would offer something different from stuff like touchstrip and touchscreen mixers (the fact "fader pads" would stick out would make it different too, even if it doesn't change functionality that much).

But by their filed trademark request, could be just a bag or backpack.

EDIT: Ableton version of Circuit others suggested elsewhere makes sense to me too.

pottering wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:00 pm

My guess is that they took the same tech used in the Push 3's MPE pads and made longer vertical pads that look and work like faders (Push 3 also gave them experience building stuff with audio interfaces).

Push's pads are more sensitive than touchstrips, and the left/right detection would allow a user to mix gain and panning at the same time, with some practice, that would offer something different from stuff like touchstrip and touchscreen mixers (the fact "fader pads" would stick out would make it different too, even if it doesn't change functionality that much).

mpe track faders would be pretty interesting. assign cutoff to pressure, record the automation, etc.

Touch strip track faders from other companies have been pretty depressing. But the push 3 pads are great, maybe ableton and the tech are there now

Funny, I was thinking more about their long abandoned collaboration project. I doubt it's anything that would compete directly with Push 3.

iPad software sounds about right though. Some sort of companion software to Push 3. Logic Remote is pretty impressive for instance. Plus the dammed things have Apple Silicon chips in them they're hopelessly overpowered for what most people use them for.

Somebody on reddit said it could be about video.

It does fit the "Move" name and the pixelized font they used.