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Not sure if this is part of the L12 changes or I somehow messed up my config, but I can't access stock device presets from collections anymore. Example:



I used to be able to see Saturator presets when clicking on the arrow as shown here.

Now, if I explicitly add some presets to the collection, they will also show up under the device:



However, notice how they're also present as standalone presets below. If I were to manually add all presets to the collection, they would make the list overwhelming (and push VSTs way to the bottom).

On the other hand, VST presets show up as expected:



If this is how it works now it seems like an oversight to me.

Fixed after upgrading from Live 12.1 beta to stable (either triggered by a reindex or a bugfix).

Started having the exact problem with 12.1.10b4

iloyd2 wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:15 am

Started having the exact problem with 12.1.10b4

Then you might want to report on Centercode.

Reported, but also got it fixed after doing a full install of b4 instead of auto-update.

This keeps happening to me on two different Macs. I have to delete and rebuild Live's db to make the presets come back, but it only works for a limited time (maybe until anything triggers a change to the DB?).

iloyd2 if you point me to your report I can also chime in there