How do you get around the lack of linked midi clips/patterns?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:25 am
I made a short video showing what I'm talking about so you can get a better idea (make sure subtitles are turned on, they explain in more detail): https://youtu.be/Se38JPSAwwo. To sum it up, this feature means that midi clips can be linked together, meaning when you change one, all of the linked ones change, which is very useful for making small edits.
Last August, I moved from FL studio to Ableton, and for the most part, I really like it, but the one thing that really annoys me is ableton's lack of linked/alias/pooled midi clips. Reaper, Cubase, FL Studio and a bunch more DAWs have this feature, and as someone who works a lot with midi, I feel that it's almost essential. I can't think of a single reason ableton doesn't have it other than it just not being a priority to the devs. It just means you have to do more tedious copy-pasting when you make changes. It wouldn't even have to be the default, it could just be another shortcut for duplicating/pasting linked clips.
I really hope they add this feature one day, but for the time being, how do you deal with this? I've heard some suggestions before, like using the session view for sketching ideas, and then arranging it once you're done, but I'm the type of person that likes tweaking things right up until the track is finished. When I have an idea for a change, I make it, then have to copy paste it over and over, making sure I don't miss anything, making sure I don't accidentally paste over some edit that I forgot that I made, make any chops that I originally had there, sometimes forget that I made a chop, so I have to ctrl-z to undo it, to look again, then paste again, etc. etc.
I'm not sure how to deal with it. Most software has this, even 3D modelling software, where you can link duplicate models, so when you change one, every instance of it also changes. I think the tedium of it is limiting me quite a bit on a psychological level. I feel reluctant to make any changes because it can get annoying having to copy paste over and over. It's not a deal breaker, but it's pretty close to being one for someone who works a lot with midi. I know there's a max-for-live device that adds this feature, but I don't really want to get used to using a third-party thing that may end up being abandoned. This feature should really be built in.
If you're wondering why this isn't a feature request, it's because I've seen this same feature requested on a post made around 20 years ago, and many times between now and then, and there's also a request for it on the beta feedback site.
One thing that at least makes me still okay with using ableton is the fact that copy-pasting and manipulating clips is very nice compared to some DAWs, but I still feel like it should really have linked midi clips.
Last August, I moved from FL studio to Ableton, and for the most part, I really like it, but the one thing that really annoys me is ableton's lack of linked/alias/pooled midi clips. Reaper, Cubase, FL Studio and a bunch more DAWs have this feature, and as someone who works a lot with midi, I feel that it's almost essential. I can't think of a single reason ableton doesn't have it other than it just not being a priority to the devs. It just means you have to do more tedious copy-pasting when you make changes. It wouldn't even have to be the default, it could just be another shortcut for duplicating/pasting linked clips.
I really hope they add this feature one day, but for the time being, how do you deal with this? I've heard some suggestions before, like using the session view for sketching ideas, and then arranging it once you're done, but I'm the type of person that likes tweaking things right up until the track is finished. When I have an idea for a change, I make it, then have to copy paste it over and over, making sure I don't miss anything, making sure I don't accidentally paste over some edit that I forgot that I made, make any chops that I originally had there, sometimes forget that I made a chop, so I have to ctrl-z to undo it, to look again, then paste again, etc. etc.
I'm not sure how to deal with it. Most software has this, even 3D modelling software, where you can link duplicate models, so when you change one, every instance of it also changes. I think the tedium of it is limiting me quite a bit on a psychological level. I feel reluctant to make any changes because it can get annoying having to copy paste over and over. It's not a deal breaker, but it's pretty close to being one for someone who works a lot with midi. I know there's a max-for-live device that adds this feature, but I don't really want to get used to using a third-party thing that may end up being abandoned. This feature should really be built in.
If you're wondering why this isn't a feature request, it's because I've seen this same feature requested on a post made around 20 years ago, and many times between now and then, and there's also a request for it on the beta feedback site.
One thing that at least makes me still okay with using ableton is the fact that copy-pasting and manipulating clips is very nice compared to some DAWs, but I still feel like it should really have linked midi clips.