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Any Tips on producing a mr oizo bass line

if its the one i'm thinking of, you'll need an anolog synth of some sort or a its virtual counterpart.

You might try automat if you're on a mac. It's free and pretty nasty.

then play around with saw or square wave based sounds with some distortion on em.


best thing to do is figure out how to make boyinabox bass lines



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Try the free VSTi Rotopuker...it's got a oizo sounding preset in it which is quite good!

I only spent a minute or two on this, so forgive me if it's "all wrong, that's not like Oizo at all", etc. etc.
http://www.sendmefile.com/00042198

-just drop this in library/presets/simpler

if i remember right, "Flat Beat" was done pretty much with a Roland sampler and a Korg MS-20. i would guess it was a sample because it modulates faster the higher in pitch it goes, much like the Reese basslines do in drum & bass.


it's not hard to make, the trick is to use an ADSR envelope on a low pass filter, a little bit of resonance, play with the attack and decay of the filter envelope to get the "whoww" part of the bass right

How do you put an ADSR envelope on a low pass filter?

Can this be done with operator

boyinabox wrote:How do you put an ADSR envelope on a low pass filter?

Can this be done with operator

YES!

I'll give it a shot.
Although i have to admit that the bassline is modeled after "analog worms attack"

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you probably will get a very close result with the Behringer Ultrabass Pro EX1200 ,i have been using that to get the fatest bassline.

zekrab wrote:

boyinabox wrote:How do you put an ADSR envelope on a low pass filter?

Can this be done with operator

YES!

i've never messed much with operator, but any synth with a low pass filter and envelope that can modulate the filter can do it.... i would usually use a Juno for something like that but i've gotten similar results with Reason's Subtractor and a couple of other soft synths (i think Junglist/Hydra was another).

for a generic off the top of my head how-to, i'd start with a square wave or better yet a sub oscillator square wave (this is what i'd use on a Juno) - if the synth has PWM, you can adjust that to get the tone you want. a little bit of chorus helps too (again, i do this with the Juno's built in chorus since it has a pretty distinct sound). next, set the lowpass filter so that it's nearly closed, with some resonance so that you get a somewhat muffly, dubby bass tone. play with the resonance and frequency so you get the intensity of the bass right at whatever notes you need. not too much resonance, you don't want it to be a sloppy mess.

now turn the filter envelope control up to halfway or better for a ballpark setting. decay and sustain should be up halfway or so, so the filter opens up enough to give you a (breifly) squelchy sound. start with the attack up about 1/3, release should be nearly off but not completely so you don't get a click when you release the key.

the attack will determine the rise of the filter (the all important "wowwww" sound), the decay and sustain will control how quickly the filter clamps back down. the release is not really critical, the action is all in the attack/decay. the controls will be somewhat interactive but you'll figure it out pretty quick once you get it. how fast the filter opens and closes is pretty important to whatever song you're using it in, too fast or too slow and it'll sound like poop. also adjust the frequency and resonance of the filter to find the sweet spot where it works best. envelope will control how far the filter will open up, with just a little envelope you get a subtle "wowww", env up all the way will get you a squelchier tone.

hope that helps, i'm not in front of a synth at the moment so it's all off the top of my head, quick & dirty stylee. it should get you in the ballpark enough to understand how those kinds of bass sounds are made.

you could do it with Simpler if you had a decent square wave bass tone to work with that was looped properly, i'm pretty sure Simpler has envelope to filter capability.

Oizo uses a very minimal gear approach, all the tracks are pretty much: roland tr-606 + korg ms-20, all resampled through the akai s950 + distortion and compression effects.

the infamous bassline sound is classic ms-20 tho. you can get that exact sound from the korg legacy plugin, one of the vsti has a terrific ms-20 emulation. the sound your after actually combines a lowpass filter AND a bandpass filter, the two are modulated through an adsr set to a slow attack for that "bwoooow" bassline effect. then push the compression on your drum & bass channels and you got it!

Why copying someones style?

For me its like listenign to a record witch someone elses soul, and that makes it complete souless.

lola wrote:Why copying someones style?

For me its like listenign to a record witch someone elses soul, and that makes it complete souless.

who said anything about style?
It's the sound he's after. You'll learn +- 20 new tricks each time you try to replicate a sound. And perhaps discover a way to make it better

hoffman2k wrote:

lola wrote:Why copying someones style?

For me its like listenign to a record witch someone elses soul, and that makes it complete souless.

who said anything about style?
It's the sound he's after. You'll learn +- 20 new tricks each time you try to replicate a sound. And perhaps discover a way to make it better

That bassline is mr oizo's style rite?
If u hear that bass, the first thing that will come into your mind, is oizo.

So its his style.

lola wrote:

hoffman2k wrote:

lola wrote:Why copying someones style?

For me its like listenign to a record witch someone elses soul, and that makes it complete souless.

who said anything about style?
It's the sound he's after. You'll learn +- 20 new tricks each time you try to replicate a sound. And perhaps discover a way to make it better

That bassline is mr oizo's style rite?
If u hear that bass, the first thing that will come into your mind, is oizo.

So its his style.

nah, the first thing that came to my mind when i heard oizo was an ms-20. songwriting talent makes the style more than the instrument. learning how to imitate a bass sound is much like learning a led zeppelin song on guitar. it doesn't make you a jimmy page ripoff just a better guitarist.