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Push 3 controller doesn’t boot up, blank screen, it happened after update, which has failed. If i press shift + power, or other button combinations - Push logo lights up, but its not recognized by Ableton live. Tried everything. Original usb cable + power adapter. Cant send a message to support without Live license. Please help!

Why don't you have a license?
Which update are you mentioning exactly?
What if you hold the User button while powering it on?

I just started using trial.
On a first connection it started the update process, v. 12.2.5, which gave an error.
With user button - the same, only Push logo, no reaction.

cake36104 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:02 am

On a first connection it started the update process, v. 12.2.5, which gave an error.

You're talking about the Live update, or the P3 Standalone update?

[jur] wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:21 am

[quote=cake36104 post_id=<a href="tel:1834783">1834783</a> time=<a href="tel:1756897327">1756897327</a> user_id=313634]
On a first connection it started the update process, v. 12.2.5, which gave an error.

You're talking about the Live update, or the P3 Standalone update?
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Its a Push 3 controller, i have connected it to MacBook running Ableton, and it started the firwmware update, i think.

What are you seeing in Live's MIDI Preferences?
Make sure there's no "Push" control surface selected in here.

[jur] wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:57 am

What are you seeing in Live's MIDI Preferences?
Make sure there's no "Push" control surface selected in here.

Looks like this, not in control surface.
Push 3 is visible in input/output ports.

Try thrashing Live's Preferences.cfg file and see if it helps.

[jur] wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:18 pm

Try thrashing Live's Preferences.cfg file and see if it helps.

Did that, no change. Here i found a log from Push:


2025-09-03T09:47:11.242571=info { "message": "Push 3 12.2.5 - started" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.471980=info { "message": "Hardware type: Push 3" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.496567=info { "message": "Hardware type: Push 3" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.728101=info { "message": "Found Push USB device (rev B)" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.729450=info { "message": "Push display USB device opened" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.752655=info { "message": "Start reading software update state" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.752711=info { "message": "Getting next version URL https://hardware-updates.ableton.com/ap ... ev/latest/" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.793063=info { "message": "Hardware type: Push 3" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.793925=info { "message": "Hardware type: Push 3" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.900469=info { "message": "Response was 200" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.966883=info { "message": "Push script loaded" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.966998=info { "message": "Push sends greeting to Live" }
2025-09-03T09:47:12.967162=info { "message": "Starting the main loop" }
2025-09-03T09:47:13.850756=error { "message": "USB bulk transfer failed: Operation timed out" }
2025-09-03T09:47:13.850872=info { "message": "Querying system info" }
2025-09-03T09:47:14.944789=error { "message": "USB bulk transfer failed: Operation timed out" }
2025-09-03T09:47:14.944970=error { "message": "Failed to send sysinfo request" }
2025-09-03T09:47:14.944993=info { "message": "Querying Firmware versions" }
2025-09-03T09:47:16.067055=error { "message": "USB bulk transfer failed: Operation timed out" }
2025-09-03T09:47:16.067219=error { "message": "Failed to send firmware version request for pmc" }
2025-09-03T09:47:17.192575=error { "message": "USB bulk transfer failed: Operation timed out" }
2025-09-03T09:47:17.192706=error { "message": "Failed to send firmware version request for apc" }
2025-09-03T09:47:18.292502=error { "message": "USB bulk transfer failed: Operation timed out" }
2025-09-03T09:47:18.292601=error { "message": "Failed to send firmware version request for xySensor" }
2025-09-03T09:47:19.397763=error { "message": "USB bulk transfer failed: Operation timed out" }
2025-09-03T09:47:19.398046=error { "message": "Failed to send firmware version request for startupImage" }
2025-09-03T09:47:20.491625=error { "message": "USB bulk transfer failed: Operation timed out" }
2025-09-03T09:47:20.491861=error { "message": "Failed to send firmware version request for imagery" }
2025-09-03T09:47:21.504289=error { "message": "USB transmission failure : (transfer was cancelled)" }
2025-09-03T09:47:21.504423=info { "message": "Transmission error, resetting USB device" }
2025-09-03T09:47:21.505201=info { "message": "Push display USB device closed" }
2025-09-03T09:47:21.607462=info { "message": "Found Push USB device (rev B)" }
2025-09-03T09:47:21.609108=info { "message": "Push display USB device opened" }
2025-09-03T09:47:22.704172=error { "message": "USB transmission failure : (transfer was cancelled)" }

Is it possible to send it for repair?

cake36104 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 05, 2025 12:35 pm

Is it possible to send it for repair?

Of course. Did you already register it on your ableton.com account? If yes, then you should find a link somewhere to contact Sales support.
Meanwhile, are you able to test it with another computer? Is it possible that your laptop has some kind of firewall/security setting that could block the USB communication?
Also, did you try re-installing Live? That can help sometimes.

I have sent an email to [email protected]
Tried with another computer and different Ableton version.

Thank you for response!