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maybe dumb UC-33 question!

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:14 pm
by affiliations
Hi, im a new user to this forum, but couldn`t find anything on this:

I have assigned a fader on my UC-33 to the pitch control of a loop being played live.

Fun so far, but the fader is VERY sensitive when doing this. Enough that keeping predictable results while playing real-time is next 2 impossible. Full up and down on the fader is I think around +/- 2 octaves or so.

What I am trying to do is to adjust the full range limits in a way that moving the UC-33 fader all the way would only result in say +/- 5 cent on the sample being played. ie: a more accurate control over a narrower pitch range.

thanks for any thaughts on this....

Re: maybe dumb UC-33 question!

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:19 pm
by robin
affiliations wrote:Hi, im a new user to this forum, but couldn`t find anything on this:

I have assigned a fader on my UC-33 to the pitch control of a loop being played live.

Fun so far, but the fader is VERY sensitive when doing this. Enough that keeping predictable results while playing real-time is next 2 impossible. Full up and down on the fader is I think around +/- 2 octaves or so.

What I am trying to do is to adjust the full range limits in a way that moving the UC-33 fader all the way would only result in say +/- 5 cent on the sample being played. ie: a more accurate control over a narrower pitch range.

thanks for any thaughts on this....
what version of Live? you can tweak this in the limits as you assign the midi in 5 and in 4 you can go to the arrange view and change the range in the master channel, bottom right.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:22 pm
by Nixon
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=enigma.register
this is software to edit the signals sent by the uc33

with this you can edit your uc33 controls easily! just change the range of your fader to a samller amount of midi cc's?

Maby this is a little much, but if you have more questions, just ask!

good luck!

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:23 pm
by robin
Nixon wrote:http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=enigma.register
this is software to edit the signals sent by the uc33

with this you can edit your uc33 controls easily! just change the range of your fader to a samller amount of midi cc's?

Maby this is a little much, but if you have more questions, just ask!

good luck!
it's much easier in Live though, but yeah that is a solution.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:26 pm
by Nixon
It IS much easier in live, but this cannot be done with all controls right? Editing the midi cc's is not too hard though, and a nice thing to learn. I use this a lot!

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:28 pm
by robin
Nixon wrote:It IS much easier in live, but this cannot be done with all controls right? Editing the midi cc's is not too hard though, and a nice thing to learn. I use this a lot!
You're right, it's a good skill to have. I'm a bit of a midiot though :)

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:30 pm
by Nixon
hehehe "midiot", Nice! :D

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:15 pm
by inis
Enigma is definetly easier than it use to be. Once you spend an hour or so getting over the hill and understand it, it is a piece of cake. I do changes with enigma in the middle of my sets sometimes. I just always have it running. its a piece of cake once you understand how they designed it (which is pretty poor in most peoples opinion).

Also, if you need help, just get a phone number for the M-audio tech guys. they are usually pretty awsome. they can walk you through what the weak ass manual cant.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:16 pm
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thanks for the reply guys, but I still dont get it.
V5 does not allow min & max to be set on the transpose knob for a sample playing.

I`ve also tried out enigma for the first time, but no luck there either. It doesn`t look like it can do much more that assign things. Nothing I cant do with the box itself.

again: I have assigned a UC-33 fader to the transpose knob on live5. I now want full deflection on that fader to correspond to +/- 5 semitones instead of the default +/- 48 semitones.
good luck 2 myself i guess!

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:36 pm
by Nixon
just calculate the midi cc's you should send to grab the middle +- 5 transpose...and set the as lsb and msb

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:14 pm
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That is the first thing I tried, but no luck here. Actually I`m not even sure what LSB and MSB does yet; so I could b doing something wrong.