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The concept of loop recording in arrange view

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 7:39 am
by nosuch
Does anybody understand it?
If I record in the arrange view with the loop turned on, there is a long audio clip produced.
How can I than choose which take I want to keep and how can I delete the trash audio around it?
The manual did not provide much help on that. I think I saw an article about that but I cannot find it anymore (and I am to dull to find out myself)

Anybody? Please!

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:43 am
by nosuch
The question may be dull. But please help me to figure it out.

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:59 am
by Mbazzy
So what do you do?

1/You activate the loopswitch button,
2/choose the length of the loop [1.x.x -> x.x.x ] ...
3/You activate Record button
4/You do your thing in session

While you're doing so the arranger will record over and over within the loopregion you have offset above .... .

It will not make different loops one beside another ... for that you would need to disactivate the loopswitch and than manually select and resample your work in appropriate loops.

or am I missing your question ?

That I understand, but...

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:04 am
by nosuch
most time this amnner of loop-recording serves one porpose: recording a motive several time over the same playback and THEN CHOOSE the best performance.

This step is what I cannot figure out - how to choose from the long file I produced. Am I just too stupid to find the correct keypoints?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:24 am
by Mbazzy
Than you definetly don't need to activate the loopswitch as this will "overwrite" your previously recorded loop ...

I think it comes down also how complex your basic arrangement is , in order to define your correct looppoints .

The best workaround I suggest is resample the fixed basic arrangement to an empty sessionslot with the loopswitch on to the desired length , so you create a "perfect" loop of that arrangement.

You could now delete the original arrangement, only keeping the resampled clip , or just save this arrangement and open a new session and insert your resampled clip + the new elements you want to introduce.

If you now go crazy on the new elements, while your resampled arrangement is playing, in arrangerview, there is a little marker each time your resampled clip loops ... these are your perfect looppoints .... also from the new elements below this

No overwriting but a long file

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:47 pm
by Guest
Mbazzy wrote:Than you definetly don't need to activate the loopswitch as this will "overwrite" your previously recorded loop ...
To be sure to make no mistake I tried it again.
Set the loop to one bar and recorded in the loop mode 8 times

Result is an audio file 8 bars long (with a loop set to one bar) which you can see in the clip view by clipping on the recorded clip.
I understand now, that I can choose the audio to playback by setting the right loop.
But how can I delete the trash audio from the clip (if I record "tape style" wich means recordings of 16 or more bars there will be a lot of data to be deleted)?
Do i have to open it in an extern audio editor?
But I would not see the bars and loops in an editor so correct editing would be mere chance

maybe someone from Ableton has a solution?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:13 pm
by Mbazzy
Ok, we had a little misunderstanding I think :

I thought you were recording your tryouts to the arranger, in which case you could easily delete the non-relevant parts.

If you resample immediatly to a new wav than you have to use an external editor