World Clock.. do you use it?

[sweetjesus]

I've been thinking of throwing some money at this. World Clock helps the A/D process heaps, but to what degree.. who here uses it and who testifies to using it etc..?

[amo]

Isn't it word clock ?
No I don't....

[musick]

Word clock? Can be usefull to sync up more AD/DA's

World clock is also usefull if your gigging a lot abroad

[spiderprod]

I've been thinking of throwing some money at this. World Clock helps the A/D process heaps, but to what degree.. who here uses it and who testifies to using it etc..?

wordclock is a must have if you use more than 2 digital devices & need to do high standards recordings .
it's expensive but is worth it for high quality sound ,if you are doing soundtrack for movies & adverts ,you need to use a 192k sample rate ,if you don't use wordclock none of you sampling frequencies are sync'd up & the sample rate quality is divided by 2 (in theory) for every ad/da converter your signal go through .
the only places i have seen wordclock are in recording suites for media or mastering suites where every bits of gear are digital machines & need to be sync'd up .
i would not worry if you are doing conventional recordings .even the best recording artists i have met still use a 44.1 sample rate for their recordings & usually use only one digital device between pc & the source signal .all the rest like preamps / channel strips or other outboards gears they uses are analog .

[sweetjesus]

thanks for the correction amo.

spiderprod, thanks for clarification on the matter. from what i understood in the past is that out of say 44100 samples recorded in a second, a small number would be out of sync especially in lower end ad converters. my understanding was that these inaccuraccies are naturally occuring due to the lack of the lower end AD converters ability to accurately keep track of samples vs time.

will do more research on the matter, but as you suggest wordclock is used in more post environments. may invest my currently non existing cash in proper AD converters (apogee or prism).

[spiderprod]

you got the picture .
it's easier to understand with drawings in front of you .
in my understanding wordclock will sync the frequency of all your machines so the signal is always cut into samples at the same place .

[mikemc]

no, I use death clock

http://www.deathclock.com/

[spiderprod]

no, I use death clock

http://www.deathclock.com/

apparently i am gonna die the 14th jully 2009 .

[computo]

FUCK GMT. I use my time, how I want to.

period

[Marquis]

Had to bump this.

A band member (a doctor of physics) seems to think word clock is absolutely mandatory if we are to progress with recording our band’s work. I think otherwise and need your advice.

At the moment, all our inputs are analogue-born (ie. Vocals, bass) or are born-digital and converted to analogue by a D/A converter (ie. V-Synth or a PC laptop running VSTis). These are all fed into a MOTU 828mk2 (with an ADAT connected) hooked up to a Mac for recording.

If we were to upgrade the PC laptop from an echo indigo dj to something with spdif out, and fed that to the MOTU, is “word clock” synchronisation automatically achieved? (A friend said last night that word clock is automatically sent via spdif, but I’m not sure)

The Doc seems to think the laptop performer should buy a sound interface with word clock synch option, to ensure the samples are exactly synched.

Tell me if I’m wrong, but this would only be the case if the PC laptop was used to record inputs simultaneously with the MOTU on the Mac (i.e. two different computers trying to record audio independently to their hard drives, yet in synch so their recordings can be merged later)?

As long as the only digital “recorder” is the motu connected computer, there’s no need for word clock, right?

And if I were to then dump the recordings from the MOTU Mac as OMF, and copy them onto my PC (running Nuendo on a Digi001) to edit, would there be any risk of the audio files not being in synch with the project’s clock because they were recorded on a different word clock master?

If I then record some overdubs through the digi001, will they be in synch with the audio files that were recorded on the MOTU machine and then loaded into the Digi001 project?

Sorry these are lamer questions, and this is such a long post, but I just want to get as much info as I can, so I have enough ammo to prevent the productivity-crushing geek conversations we get thrown into by this difference of opinion.

Thanks in advance.

Mark

[Vercengetorex]

Marquis: Yes, he is absolutely right. To acheive the highest sound quality, wordclock is essential.

I think however we should keep in mind this thread is about worldclock, not wordclock, so lets stay on topic. Personally, sweetjesus I find worldclock pretty much useless. Nobody supports the infinite bit interface.

[eyeknow]

no, I use death clock

http://www.deathclock.com/

apparently i am gonna die the 14th jully 2009 .

I'll trade you......mine is may 16, 2044

I'm ready to go........

[Marquis]

Marquis: Yes, he is absolutely right. To acheive the highest sound quality, wordclock is essential.

Heh... World Clock. I almost started a new thread beacuase of the title - but opted not to, in fear of "Seartch n00b" flames.

So...

To achieve the highest sound quality, sure. But isn't that only an issue when you are working with really high quality cables, plugs, DA/AD converters, pro-sound-treated recording facilities etc? Your sound quality is only as good as your weakest link, isn't it?