good midi controller?

ekitel · Post by **ekitel** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:32 am

I don't konw about that thing that Sasha is using, but other than that it looks to me like there is no good midi controller for Live. The UC-33 is ok, though I prefer the Edirol keyboard controllers for one big reason, they have push buttons with led light indicators...

Ideally I'd like to see something like a UC-33, with only 4 or 5 channels, and it can be modular so you add another one to double your channels, and each channel should have the standard fader, and at least 3 led lit buttons, and then at least 3 knobs... simple as that, I wish I could get some company to manufacture something like that

Clearscreen · Post by **Clearscreen** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:46 am

they have push buttons with led light indicators

check out the behringer bcr2000. lots of knobs, and lots of led buttons. i haven't used my pcr30 since i got my hands on one a few weeks ago.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:49 am

I'm not sure if this is modular as a friend of mine just turned me onto this product, but check out
http://www.eclerdjdivision.com/instrume ... 4index.htm

grfld · Post by **grfld** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:00 am

ekitel wrote:Ideally I'd like to see something like a UC-33, with only 4 or 5 channels, and it can be modular so you add another one to double your channels, and each channel should have the standard fader, and at least 3 led lit buttons, and then at least 3 knobs... simple as that, I wish I could get some company to manufacture something like that

I think the BCF2000 would be perfect to you. Round about 180€, 8 motorized faders, 8 pushencoder with LED around, 30 buttons. The cheaper (about 130€) BCR2000is equipped with 32 pushencoders instead of the 8 faders, works also great with live.

x/heiko

ekitel · Post by **ekitel** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:25 am

Clearscreen wrote:
they have push buttons with led light indicators
check out the behringer bcr2000. lots of knobs, and lots of led buttons. i haven't used my pcr30 since i got my hands on one a few weeks ago.

WOW! I've seen these Behringer devices but I didn't realize the buttons have LED's, I just assumed they were pretty bare bones

while the BCF2000 isn't exactly what I want it's got enough to get me started with the live PA I'm trying to develop until there something better

that Ecler mixer looks pretty cool, too bad all the controls in the mixer don't also control midi...

thanks!

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:32 am

ekitel wrote:
Clearscreen wrote:
they have push buttons with led light indicators
check out the behringer bcr2000. lots of knobs, and lots of led buttons. i haven't used my pcr30 since i got my hands on one a few weeks ago.
WOW! I've seen these Behringer devices but I didn't realize the buttons have LED's, I just assumed they were pretty bare bones

thanks!

the OS on the BCR is frekkin awesome. allows for just about every kind of adjustment to the controls and LED's you can imagine.

spiderprod · Post by **spiderprod** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:42 am

sweetjesus wrote:I'm not sure if this is modular as a friend of mine just turned me onto this product, but check out
http://www.eclerdjdivision.com/instrume ... 4index.htm

i have tryed the nuo4 , you are very limited in terms of controls , 4 knobs & 3 buttons ....

i backup the bcr , it's for me the best controler for the money on the market .
i still think they should have added a few pots instead of going all encoders .

JoePsychle · Post by **JoePsychle** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:32 pm

channels 2&4 of the ecler can also be used to send midi . you have a total of 72 controllers you can assign. hardly limited. the xone 92 is limited to filters and xfader. NUO 4 has lots more to offer, if your looking to have a dj mixer for tables and ableton or traktor.
my 2 cents.
-JOe

donnydonny · Post by **donnydonny** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:44 am

the BCF2000 with mackie control, IMO, is the best midi controller / control surface you can get. especially for its price.

dave999z · Post by **dave999z** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:00 am

What do you folks think of the Bitstream 3x?

ekitel · Post by **ekitel** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:55 am

the faders on the BCF seem to have a pretty long throw, I would prefer shorter faders since I will be playing them like a Dj mixer, I'm wondering if I should go for the BCR instead and use knobs for levels, and then I'll get a bunch of other knobs to use also, I don't normally dj with knobs since I like to do hard cuts Techno style, but I know it can be done and gotten used to, the quick twist...

borg · Post by **borg** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:27 am

have you heard of faderfox? small, kind of modular, and the new models just might have features you're looking for...

they're out early january.

www.faderfox.de

also, i've heard the knobs on the bcr can be set to act very quick, as in: turning a knob real fast and do a complete sweep/fader jump in a quarter turn...

ekitel · Post by **ekitel** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:35 am

doesn't look like there are LED's on the faderfox buttons

that's good to know about the Behringer, I think I'll go for the BCR then, it's cheaper too!

grfld · Post by **grfld** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:23 am

donnydonny wrote:the BCF2000 with mackie control, IMO, is the best midi controller / control surface you can get. especially for its price.

If you add an TranzPort from Frontier Design and use Behringers BCFView or huskervu you'll get nearly the same functionality like a Mackie Control (with all knobs, faders, large jogdial, tranzport control and so on) for round about a third of the price. The only thing that is missing: the volume fader and touchfaders, but they are not supported by Live.

x/grfld

grfld · Post by **grfld** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:36 am

borg wrote:also, i've heard the knobs on the bcr can be set to act very quick, as in: turning a knob real fast and do a complete sweep/fader jump in a quarter turn...

Yes, if you assign a control-element within live, you can choose the range between the midi-values should work. This allows you to make changes "finer" or "wider" (e.g. "quicker")

x/grfld

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