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DJing: this is probably super simple effects advice, but....

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:45 pm
by robtronik
I found a way to have a lot of effects inserts in a send channel w/ some real usability on stage and not have it be complicated. This is an ergonimic suggestion (and not a discover that I could chain effects. I knew that, its how you enable them and use them while performing with a MIDI controller that was a bit problematic when you only have so many buttons, etc.)

Basically, I chain a bunch together in an insert track. Assign a row of horizontal buttons on my midi keyboard (in my case, I have an Ozonic or a Novation ReMote depending on which I want to use) to toggle an on and off state. Each on and off toggle button is assigned to one of the chained effects. These are usually the buttons that are under knobs that I have assigned to send the audio from that track to the send track where these effects are chained together.

SO, then while I am playing I can send my audio to these effects and turn them on and off in interesting combinations that result in different sounding effects while only using one send track! Its quick, easy, and sonically effective.

I've put a limiter at the end of the chain in case something feedbacks on itself or the gain gets too high by accident, but this has changed my thought process on how to use send/returns in a more exciting and efficient manner.

By doing this, I don't need a bunch of send tracks to process an individual effect. Just chain them and turn them on and off within one track as needed, in different combiniations, and keeps the sound fresh.

One of the criticisms that I had of my recent mix that I posted on this board was that the transition effects that I would use on occasion, sounded stale to me because it was the same type of delay that faded out. Its kind of painful for me to listen to now because I can so clearly hear it, it ruins the mix for me (although others probably aren't as sensitive to it just enjoying the music).

Anyway, this is more of an ergonomic suggestion, but it really opened up a lot of options in a simple manner. My apologies if this is already well known to a lot of people and is redundant.

rob.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:08 pm
by Johnisfaster
yeah I hooked my nord up for my show and had 3 fx on the master track for almost every song, beatrepeat was on one key, pingpong delay was on another, and then each mute of the eq3 was assigned to 3 other keys. it was very effective. then a couple of the knobs were assigned to various paramaters like rate and what not. but it feels very good to slap a key and have your fx come on and off.

simple pleasures.

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:59 am
by dizaster
Hi rob,
Top tip mate, i've been trying to work out a nice easy way get effects going while djing... this looks like it'll do the job nicely.
I'm trying to establsih a pattern to keep re-using, so i have 2 questions, hopw you can help me.

1. how do you have your send/mixer levels set while using this idea?
2. What limiter are you using and do you ever get a glitch while using it?

Either way, thanks .
Dizzy

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:13 pm
by serotoninsteve
Try a Beatrepeat as first fx in the chain, assign a button to the repeat switch and and 2 knobs to BR volume and to the grid value. Now you can catch on the fly a sample and mangle it with BR and your fx, you can even turn the volume of your running track halfway down to get interesting "crossfade" style mixes. You can even make the transition to your next track with this method and keep the return track running over the new track.

Greetings

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:41 pm
by dizaster
Steve, ....wikid.......

Diz