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Hey im a newbie, ive been producing for a year and a half and i gots ableton, logic, fantom x7, mpc and reason (jobs geen good for me) i dont get how to make house music!!!
when i make hip hop its rediculisly easy, get a sample, loop it, bang it out on the mpc, add some keys, and some synth and walla, one bad ass track
but when ever i look at the forums here i hear shit like putting drum loops into 1/4 notes then play em out, and like sample a horn then layer it a bazillion times, put a synth under it then run it through around 60 different filters, jesus christs dude!!!, i need help.
i really wanna lear how to do house, ive been listening to it but ime lost, help me out buds, what kinda music do i sample??? how would i do the drums??? how would i do the synth line??? lol anything would be awsome, u guys are rediculisly smart, lol
help me out!!!

kick on every quarter
and hat on every other 8th and you're pretty much there


what ever flavor you put in it is up to you

Take your favorite house track and try to reproduce it.

house is all about the shuffle and the deepness of the kick or bass on the 1/4ths...
also programming things too tight overall kills the feel of house so try to loosen up some notes on percussive and tonal elements by moving them back or forward a few samples here and there

mmmm...feeeel...

>THIS< is a great demo mp3 of a new sample CD that came out just two days ago. Manuel Schleis is awesome. Best $85 I spent on samples for use in Live. Everytime I listen to this demo it makes me giddy.. Talk about FEEEEEEL the beat!

so when i make hats i should shuffle it, just making sure that means quantizing it in triplets right????
wut about the kick, should i shuffle that too??

MarkH wrote:>THIS< is a great demo mp3 of a new sample CD that came out just two days ago. Manuel Schleis is awesome. Best $85 I spent on samples for use in Live. Everytime I listen to this demo it makes me giddy.. Talk about FEEEEEEL the beat!

Damn... I've never heard the bottom end in my little monitors sound so good... and that's from an MP3!

Thanks for that!

Yeah, kicks on the quarters, hats on the eights and a clap or snare on the 2nd and fourth beats. It's all about taking the feel up on the upbeat and slamming it down on the downbeat.

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Think of the drums and bass as being played live. There is usually a little slop in timing. I like to move things like claps and snares a little forward from each other so they don't hit exactly at the same time. Since you said you make hip hop one thing that you may be doing is making the bass kicks too long and open. Sometimes to get the "traditional" house sounds you'll want to shorten the release on the kicks. It makes more space in the sound. Anyway those are a couple of things that help me.

For starting with stuff that came with Live, I like the Live drum Clip called "Electro - Kick n Snare" or something like that. Turn off the other drum parts and turn up the bass, it's a good, basic 4 on the floor kick snare. Turning off or deleting the reverb saves CPU load.

Buying a sample CD is a good way to go, it surpasses the frustration of making loops in a specific style you want to produce and lets you just work on production.

Sample sample sample - got some house records?

Sample the loops at the beginning and end of some records or something cool in the middle - basic percussion stuff not the main riff's

Ableton's dope, mix and match your loops until you get the right combo

take the low end out (if you want to) and add a monster Kick from Microtonic, make a 4 - 4 clip and couple good breaks with the kicks

add a clap on the 2 and 4

now - go to your funk classics via CD or record - CD's are cleaner

find the perfect funky loop - cut it out, stretch it in Ableton - import it into Recycle, turn your grid on and cut it on the 1/4's 1/8's or 1/2 beats - what ever works for you

Open Ableton back up with your drum loops and breaks and claps

Rewire a couple instances if the Dr Rex player in Ableton - on both instances import your recycled funk loop

if the loop is cut up in 1/4 beats you can draw in quarter beats until you get a new rythme going - send that midi out to both Dr Rex's

One Dr. rex drop a low end filter over the top and on the other, a high end filter - squeeze the bass out of the low end with a compressor and add some delay or reverb to the high end - sounds nothing like the original loop now - bring both Dr rex's back in Ableton bussed to one track...put a low end filter over that so you can open and close everything at once


Now sequence the whole thing - get a girl to come over and give you a nice chorus and maybe some backing vocal effects

Add a couple swooshes and other un worldly effects to the critical parts of the track


send it off to your favorite dj's and hopefully blow up and get signed to Sneaks label.


house music all night long!


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hey i kind of feel in the same boat i avoid loops and prefer to programme my own beats ive got loads of sample cds but cant get the house beats im looking for really, im mixing different elements on seperate channels and the a sub mix for more eq cuts etc

still can get the type of beat im after
ive got some tracks on sound click but i dont like my beats at all

any tips on programming better beats, i want to get that shuffle on the hats took snap and qauntize off but cant get that shuffle, like Grant nelson!

PM if you have any ideas
thanks joe

man , i have produce a lot of different styles of music (from rock to hiphop passing by techno ) , house is the one i never got to master , it's all about getting the right groove .

aye, you want to make the girls do that little hip-flick thing...