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2006 is a new year - hopefully with a resolution to bring back support for Sampletank in Ableton Live products. This problem has been on the back burner since 5.0 was released. Please see poshook's post below for details:

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Sampletank 2 issue not corrected in 5.0.3 Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad


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Midi track with Sampletank2 stop responding and it is not possible to revive it with other VSTi (until restarting Live). After this bug Live5 usualy show bug report and crash imediately.

I sent description of this bug several times to your support without answer.

I am sad because I must using Live 4 instead of my Live 5 (it is more than 4 months). Live 4 has no problem with ST2... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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Desktop:
Athlon64 3000+@3200, 2GB RAM, Firewire 410, Evolution MK461C12, Ableton Live 5.0.2 Full
Stage:
Asus A6B00U, Sempron 3000+, 786MB RAM, 80GB HDD 5400rpm./8MB cache, Firewire 410, Evolution MK461C12, Ableton Live 5.0.2 Full

I have been trying to find a fix for this as well.. I had all other previous versions of LIVE so was able to switch back to 5.0.1 from 5.0.2 where my crash occured. tried uninstalling 5.0.2 and reinstalling... no luck anyway until then if you have 5.0.1 that might be a workaround so that you can get off LIVE 4. But yeah I'd like a fix.

I had just posted that I had no problems with ST2 in Live, but I was wrong.

ST2.1.1 crashes in Live 5.03 but not in Fl Studio. What gives?

I'm finding out that ST2 will sometimes work w/o any problems.

Is the problem with Live or ST2?

Anyone else experiencing weird issues with Live and ST2?

All production versions of Live 5 do not work properly with any version of ST I have (1.04, 2.0.5, 2.0.7, 2.0.9, 2.1). I have tested these on my Dell Laptop with Echo Indigo, my studio desktop with Emu 1820m, or on my old PC with MOTU 828 MkII. I have tested on XP SP1 and XP SP2. Can you tell I am in the PC business?

Sure, some ST/Live combinations crash outright and some don't, but none record / play audio from multiple ST outputs without locking up one or more individual MIDI tracks over time.

No problems with ANY Sampletank version in Sonar or Project 5, by the way.

Workaround #1: Compose in Live 4.0.4 then render ST tracks to audio. Then open up Live 5 and continue.

Workaround #2: Load Sampletank in a rewire slave like Project 5. Rewire to Ableton Live. Expensive if you don't own another rewire host supporting VST's in slave mode, but it works.

Do any of you know if is there anyway to reinitiate live 5 after this type of problem. Do I have to trash all preferences and reinstall live 5? (I have the cd's for 4 and paid for the downloadable upgrade) Personally I don't give a crap about using sampletank any longer.. I'm getting kontakt 2 but I was hoping to get LIVE 5 up and running again. none of the updates will work. I still had 5.0.1 working slightly although it is crashing a lot and getting more and more glitchy so at some point in the near future live 5 will be utterly unusable for me. 5.0.2 v where crash initially happened and any later update WILL NOT OPEN period.

Any thoughts will be helpful.