removing reverb on a track

[peeddrroo]

i know this can be done with some clever routing and a couple of utility devices, but how?

i'd like to remove the reverb from a stereo track.

please help!

[Inductive]

removing audio from a track as in, a machine->reverb effect,->master? Or removing reverb from a wav file?

#1 is easy, just move the reverb effect into a Return effect track (use A) in the track that had verb, set the return A all the way up. Switch back to the reverb and set it to 100% (how you do that depends on what reverb you use). You may want to put a utility before the reverb so when you hit/sequence Mute the reverb will release instead of stopping suddenly.

#2 starts with a gate, a cup of coffie, an eq, and a bunch of messing around. And it will never sounds 'clean'.

[peeddrroo]

thanks for the answer.

obviously, i was speaking about #2.
and i already went through the cup of coffee/messing around process.

[cyphersum]

Maybe some one needs to design a 'Deverb' plugin for you!

[Michael-SW]

Can't be done. Perhaps you could try cutting the reverb tails with a gate?? Or maybe some clever EQ can reduce some of it?

[serotoninsteve]

Maybe some one needs to design a 'Deverb' plugin for you!

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1383.html

It´s already there, but I don´t think it will do the job.

Greetings

[cyphersum]

I know... it's just a play on words.

How about an analysis on the file to determine the reverb's footprint, then use an EQ to filter out affected areas.

Run it through Gate, just mess with the settings to let it breathe a little so it's not so harsh.

[cyphersum]

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1383.html

It´s already there, but I don´t think it will do the job.

Greetings [/quote]


Never seen that verb before, it looks like it adds reverb. I was making an attempt at a device to "UNverb" a sound file. just happen to used the prefix 'De' instead of 'Un'.

[peeddrroo]

ok, i don't need to remove the reverb THAT bad. thanks anyway.

i think i have a solution though: render a file with just the "out of phase" components of the original signal (this can be done by adding an inverted mono signal to the original one).
then if you substract the original file and the rendered one, you should get something close to a dry audio file (most of the processing, esp the reverb should disappear).
am i right?

[sweetjesus]

ok, i don't need to remove the reverb THAT bad. thanks anyway.

i think i have a solution though: render a file with just the "out of phase" components of the original signal (this can be done by adding an inverted mono signal to the original one).
then if you substract the original file and the rendered one, you should get something close to a dry audio file (most of the processing, esp the reverb should disappear).
am i right?

Yes

Something like this, but it will be extremely difficult still.

Do you still have the reverb preset which was used?

Im not sure if this would work, but as an extension to your phase cancellation, perhaps get a short burst of noise and apply the reverb to that, then you have a source for cancelling phase with.

[Angstrom]

I made a plug-in a while back that extracts the center channel, from a stereo pair, IE only things that are common to both L&R will come out of this plugin ..

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 2&start=33

I must say it sounds less than Hi-fi on complex tracks, it was a proof of concept more than anything.

[arsviri]

Using a gate does work on Ableton. Youll find in Audio Effects folder. Thank you.

[Megatroid]

It really depends on the sort of track. A sparse drum loop will be much easier than a busy vocal track or something like that.

Things I would try, in this order:

As has been mentioned use a gate and play with the release time.

Manually slicing then adjusting the amplitude evelope. Essentially a gate, but you'll have more control. Will work better on something more percussive.

Expander/upwards compression. Lots of the time you'll use a compressor to bring out the 'room sound' i.e. reverb. Try doing the opposite by bringing out the transients. Then put a gate after it.

If you don't need the stereo info, make it mono. You can use utility and bring the stereo spread to 0%, this will give you the centre information only. Reverb typically has a lot of stereo signal.

EQ out some high end, the 'air' of the reverb.

Just some ideas, that's where I would start.

[simpli.cissimus]

Use a utility plugin to make the sound mono.
Most reverbs are stereo and sit left and right.

If needed you can add a gate after utility mono making.

Start with little mono and make it more mono if needed.
You can later add a short simple delay and get stereo back.
Left-Right delay difference about 20ms...!

[Wbowers]

Its like baking a cake and then asking for the eggs out of it. Its mixed into something new now.