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interesting article...


http://www.macworld.com/2006/01/feature ... /index.php

man, in relative/historic terms it took, like, a reeeeaaalllly long time for that article to come out.

stinky wrote:interesting article...


http://www.macworld.com/2006/01/feature ... /index.php

Is Apple being deceptive in there performance claims? Or is the universal software just not optimised or buggy to run faster? It not the first time Apple has claimed over-hyped faster performance. As much as the future is moving toward to Intel the G5 is still going to be in demand for another 2 years. Its way to early to even consider moving to this platform. Im sure others dont want to be suckered into early remembering the introduction of OSX. This good news for those of us looking for hard numbers unwilling to move an buy into the early hype. The news may change in the months ahead.

But, really look at the bump that the Laptops recieved, that is where the performance bump may be trully signifigant. Even if the laptops are only in real world tests 2 times as fast, that is a performance increase of at least 200%. That is absolutely huge.

I saw Logic Pro 7.2 running on a 1.83 MacBook Pro today at NAMM....

WOW! It was AMAZING!!!! Dual procs equally handling the load. Tons of plugins. Extremely snappy graphic performance. It felt like my Dual 2.5 GHz G5. No sh*t.

So, I say until some of us actually get our hands on optimized music software on a new Intel Mac and view for ourselves how increased the performance is, we shouldn't jump to conclusions...

You know, I wanted one of these, but......and I am using intel right now....

I am just going to wait for AMD to kick everyone's ass as it is already doing.

In the next year or two....when 64 bit stuff really hits...

Just dreaming.

There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes which will make the mactels kick serious ass in the future.

One of the major ones is the compilers that Apple are using. They have used GCC since it's the best compiler available for PPC. Intel have much better compiler for their own architecture, and as soon as Apple stick the Intel compiler in XCode, we will see Apple apps that not only make use of the SSE instruction sets, but are optimised for Intel's latest core designs as well.

And as to Apple being deceptive... we're talking about the marketing department of a large computer Corporation..... d'uh! You reckon that they're going to come out and say "our new Intel iMac is a whopping minimum 5% faster in all tasks then the G5". Lol, whatever!

forgie wrote:There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes which will make the mactels kick serious ass in the future.
And as to Apple being deceptive... we're talking about the marketing department of a large computer Corporation..... d'uh! You reckon that they're going to come out and say "our new Intel iMac is a whopping minimum 5% faster in all tasks then the G5". Lol, whatever!

totally. They just sem to do things a bit fast, pushing the original road map a little too ahead. They might replace the G5 sooner than expected. As far as marketing and commercial moves, well people been waiting 2 years for a "PB G5" that they announced the Macbook pro in probably a prototype state. Gotta wait a few weeks to get real bench for the new machines anyway. But Altivec makes a difference still.
Anyway anything coming in September gonna seriously kick some major ass..!
I dunno if I'll wait to get one though !

stinky wrote:interesting article...


http://www.macworld.com/2006/01/feature ... /index.php

yes ok, this is a comparison just for g5's. What about tha power book's against power mac's?
whats the real difference?

But, really look at the bump that the Laptops recieved, that is where the performance bump may be trully signifigant. Even if the laptops are only in real world tests 2 times as fast, that is a performance increase of at least 200%. That is absolutely huge.

This is true. The MacBook is a huge leap forward from the G4. But Apple shouldn't be proud of this.... the G4 should have been dropped years ago. If anything, they should be ashamed that it took this long just to catch up to the PC competition.

This story shouldn't be about patting Apple on the back, saying good job. The correct response is.... "Damn, guys.... it's about fucking time."

i will never buy a mac with ... inside!

subterFUSE wrote:This is true. The MacBook is a huge leap forward from the G4. But Apple shouldn't be proud of this.... the G4 should have been dropped years ago.

I'd like to know what an upgrade of the system bus could've done for it, though, and how about decent graphics cards? I think there was a lot to be optimised on the old PowerBook platform besides the processor...

drmotte wrote:i will never buy a mac with ... inside!

Hahaha who is this guy? He's shown incredible insight with his recent posting...

I concur...

You never heard of DR Motte? = Legend!

You lot need to get out more