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Fucked up noise...

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:46 am
by Plastic Hassle
After using guitars, pedals and amps ever since I started making music I went over to using a laptop last year. I started using Live after asking around, scanning reviews etc. It's the first music software I've ever used and after a pretty steep learning curve I'm finally, finally coming out with stuff I'm sort of happy with. The hardest thing is knowing when to stop as the opportunities for tinkering are endless. I'm in a minority here as I'm making what, for want of a better word, you could call "noise". Think Merzbow, Wolf Eyes, Throbbing Gristle etc. Anybody else using Ableton for this kind of thing?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:51 am
by maxbaun
It depends on what type of input you are using. You get a semi-feedback sound if you use 1/8" some of the time. I recommend getting an external sound card that has RCA input that you can hook up your mixer to and then do a USB or Firewire into your computer. Keep in touch.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:04 pm
by Plastic Hassle
I find that if I put both A and B Send channels way up into the red I can get and manipulate the resulting feedback with, for example, Saturator or Filter Delay. I then send the signal to the Master channel at a "sensible" level where I can render to disc and resample etc.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:05 pm
by conny
I like noise.
Post some links if possible to things you've done.

// C

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:17 pm
by Plastic Hassle
Ah... That's the next stage in my ever increasing learning curve. I'm pretty untogether on a technical level but watch this space...

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:39 pm
by slatepipe
hi there
i do noise stuff in an experimental dub dance drone lofi kind of thing sometimes. check out my two sites underneath and have a look and a listen. since i got sorted out on ableton i find it amazing for knocking up noise tracks, or tracks with noise parts in them. feedback and mains hum and bits of analog equipment and toys all sound great as they are in tracks but ableton can take them off in directions that i hadn't previously thought of.

i was living in leeds last year and managed to get to see merzbow playing in a pub down the road. i was awestruck, even though he barely moved a muscle on stage. he autographed my spiral honey cd for me afterwards so i was well pleased.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:13 pm
by dm
the music i make with live is, if not exactly "noisy", pretty absract/grainy so possibly has something in common with this thread. i totally love the stuff mentioned (merzbow etc) but i make stuff that is more minimal/tonal, along the lines of 12k etc... not rhythmic/beat-driven like many live users (thats great too, of course!)...
some stuff ive done is here...
http://www.monocromatica.com/netlabel/r ... ube022.htm
http://www.standard-music.net/
http://www.oblast.net
http://www.2063music.de/index.php?itemid=65

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:26 pm
by markaugust
nice stuff DM! guess you got arne nordheim and biosphere right up there in your cd-collection....
if not, check out the the double-cd of biosphere and arne nordheim, with on one arne's original work, and on the other biosphere's version.

you'll love it

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:23 pm
by drummond
slatepipe wrote:i was living in leeds last year and managed to get to see merzbow playing in a pub down the road.
Yeah, I saw him at the Brudenell in Leeds a couple of years back, it was truely an experience - pure noise, so loud it brought chunks of plaster down from the ceiling, free souveneirs from the night!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:26 am
by leonard
I'm a noise head too!
I just heard EPA (Darin Verhagen) for the first time the other month. really nice stuff if you havn'y checked it and like noise do it!

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:44 am
by dm
thanks markaugust... actually i dont have that particular cd set of them reworking each others material, but yeah, im a fan of both artists.