firing events with trigger finger

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firing events with trigger finger

Post by areinitz » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:07 am

My trigger finger is automatically assigned to MIDI channels 10 and 11. I am trying to use the top three or four buttons (all on channel 11) to fire different events, but when i try to do the midi assign, it tries to re-allocate. How come no matter what, all of the top buttons are 11/117? What should i do to change this?


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aaron

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Post by dbolt » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:15 am

You need to make sure your midi CC#'s are not overlapping each other. They may have the same CC#. I believe there is 128 CC's and as far as note #'s you may beable to use a low low octave note #'s. I use to wonder the same thing and when i would assign a midi feature i would see another one get deleted. I hope that helps. Get the Novation SL25 and dont worry about assign midi anymore thats what im doing. Will make life much easier. Check it out!

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sl 25 encoders ?

Post by nonnus » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:22 am

dbolt

i assume you have a sl25

do the rotary encoders work properly ?

ie: do they properly increment / decrement a parameter instead of making it jump if it has different value ?

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Post by stallos » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:31 am

not sure if its possible as I dont have a trigger finger but can you use the free M-Audio ENigma software with that device ?

I use for programming my x-session and its much easier than mucking around with the buttons. Gives you a GUI for setting CC values and channel numbers etc.


Download it from M-audio/Evolutions web site

cheers
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Post by Machinate » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:13 pm

Aaron, I'm 99.9% certain that what is happening is that the aftertouch of the pads - which is all the same cc# - is interfering with the notes. What you need to do is hit Ctrl/note mute to mute the controller values coming from the pads while assigning.
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Post by dbolt » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:17 pm

No I dont have the SL 25 yet. I was planning ordering today from Sweetwater.com. You mean does the encoders have latency because my Korg MK during Mackie Emulation has a bit of latency but nothing major. Has anyone had any other problems with the SL25.

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Post by jbible » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:37 pm

You need to program the TF pads to each have their own CC. Use Enigma to do so. Its a cinch.

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Post by ::mic-minimal:: » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:46 pm

whos got the goods on triggerfinger templates, post upppp
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sl25 encoders

Post by nonnus » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:34 pm

first of all please excuse me aaron for hacking your thread

i wish u luck ssetting up your trigger finger at your will !!

dbolt: about the sl25 encoders

no i was not refering to latency

this is something usual in midi, i think it has to do with the protocol itself...

i was refering to what happened with the remote 25,

it was advertised as having rotary encoders,

but novation never got them to work as so,

ie: increment or decrement a parameter that may be in any position without jumping - the main purpose of encoders imo

still after almost 3 year release you can only use them as usual controlers, featuring jumping behaviour with the added pain that it will take you 3 or 4 turns to get from min to max value

the weird part is that almost noone seems to care about this issue,
i never saw a review that exposed this and dont really remember any thread /post on the subject...although i am sure there were some...

bottom line is:

if you still havent bought the sl25 try to check the encoders functionality either with someone that has one or in some store

a simple test:
assign some control to a encoder (either with the automap or midilearn) move the control with the encoder,
then move it to a different position with the mouse,
then use the encoder and see if it jumps to the new value or if it moves smoothly according to the encoder


good luck, i hope novation got it right this time !!

nonnus

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