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why live 5.0.3 runs better with the internal soundcard of my iBook G4 rather than with my saffire

I think they run better than anything because they are built into the mac and standard.I have noticed similar things
Obviously got good solid drivers built by Apple for an apple
If you know what I mean...
Damn I would like one of those Sapphires
Does it work well enough though ?

the strange thing is that saffire is class compliant, no drivers required, you only install the plugins and the saffire control...
anyway saffire works quite well, good quality in recording guitar, good stability with reason 2.5 and logic express 7 (sometimes little problems with firewire connection in logic) and strange glitches with live....but bfore i had an audiophile firewire...and that was a real hell!!

stegi wrote:the strange thing is that saffire is class compliant, no drivers required, you only install the plugins and the saffire control...
anyway saffire works quite well, good quality in recording guitar, good stability with reason 2.5 and logic express 7 (sometimes little problems with firewire connection in logic) and strange glitches with live....but bfore i had an audiophile firewire...and that was a real hell!!

apples firewire is a little lame.
open up terminal next time you plug in the saffire
and run "top" without the quotes..

look for the kernal process, it will probably be sitting anywhere from
10-20% of the cpu... this is the firewire....
unplug the firewire and the kernal process will drop dramatically..

does the same thing for my m-audio 410 (which requires drivers)
and for my edirol fa-66 (which doesn't require drivers)

this is an apple issue.
it pisses me off..

( the same two firewire devices on my pc run perfectly with little to NO
latency allowing me to play realtime guitar through effects.. sigh)

i have the terrible doubt it was better a usb audiocard

i have the terrible doubt it was better a usb audiocard

well , if it's of any comfort : the built in soundcard of my hp nc6000 laptop runs 10 times as consistent (no cracs & pops during recording etc or sudden tempo drops) as my usb emi2/6 audiodevice with no difference in latency

I never knew firewire had these issues ...
Is it just with sound becuase I have a couple of firewire drives and have never noticed any problems with them. Will top show similar results for these I wonder ?

as far as i can tell, firewire audio always uses some cpu regardless of platform.




.lm.