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My current Setup:
PC Athlon 64 3000+
Tascam FW-1082
Ableton Live 5.0.3
Stylus RMX 1.5.1c

I've just purchased Ableton Live and have been looking forward to using it with Stylus RMX.

However, I think I've found a problem. And I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before. (I tried searching and didn't find anything)

I watched the host specific tutorial video on Live and RMX and followed it to a tee. However, when you split up each of RMX's outputs to their own audio track in Live...I think there is a problem with the "Track Out" option on the first track.

(Track Out for some reason represents Output A in RMX)

It seems that no matter what, all of the audio still gets routed to the "Track Out" selected audio track. In fact it does it in the Spectrasonics video as well, it's just hard to notice. (at the very end of the Spectrasonics video, check out the huge level on audio track 1...compared to how relatively soft the part is....compare how the whole multi sounds at 2:32 and at the end at 8:58...everything is being played twice...some things are being duplicated on Audio Track 1)

Anyway, I went ahead and made a video to demonstrate. I pretty much did the while exact multi output lesson from the video...even with the same multi. However, I take it a step further and put all of RMX's channels on Output B...and then Output C. Then, there should be NOTHING going to track 1...but yet there still is...(you will see the signal go to Audio Track 2, and then 3)

Also, in the video...I go ahead an place each RMX channel on it own output to show the difference in the levels on Audio track 2 and RMX's track 2...which is the kick drum...and should be pretty high....it is in RMX...but not in Live. I'm not sure what's happening there.

Here's the video:
http://www.djmoose.com/videos/abletonrmx.htm
(it's a webpage with an embedded .swf file that shows the movie. it's about 8MB)

Sorry, there is no sound...I couldn't get Viewletcam to record my computer's sound.

I hope I set something up wrong. Can someone try to reproduce this?

moose
http://www.djmoose.com

P:S: I thought it might be fixed with the 1.5.1 upgrade, but I just tried it and no dice. Same thing.

greetings,

I can confirm this strange behaviour. Oddly, the first time thru following your exact steps my outputs worked fine, it was only after auditioning several different multi's did I start seeing the bug.

In addition, it seemed like only certain tracks were causing issues, when trying to load a different preset into the misbehaving track in RMX, I only got silence on that track. I hope my description makes sense.

Cool, (well, not cool...but cool as in it happens for someone else...)

I did another video:

http://www.djmoose.com/videos/abletonrmx2.htm

Here I simply play with the "Track Output" track and show how audio gets routed to it even if every part in RMX is routed to another output.

Also, say, when everything is routed to OUT B or C in RMX, the audio that gets sent to the "Track Output" audio track in Live is like 'half' of the parts in RMX part 1 and 2. Sounds wierd, but it's the best I can explain it. And it's not even the left + right channels...it's like honestly half of the part. Maybe someone else could better explain it.

Can you guys replicate this as well?

thanks!
moose

Looks like this might be because of edit groups being routed to certain outputs. (RMX issue)

I'm at work right now but will confirm soon.

yup, double check if a multi preset had editgroups that might be routed to specific outputs.

(they forgot to check when they recorded the tutorial video)