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Ok so I got an effect I need to know what it is.............

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:08 am
by 80rn7rue
Hi all,

Right I have posted up a clip of a live mix done using ableton by an artist called 0=0

Can anybody please tell me what the effect on the drums is that he is using to make tham go ?zingy(lol)? every now and again

the clip is here : Click here to listen to Drum-effect-Clip

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:22 am
by muthafunka
Link's no good and your spelling is heinous.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:32 am
by 80rn7rue
:) :) Have been up all night trying to get this sound right :) I'm tired.....

Thx for the heads up on my incompetence.............

Click here to get Drum-effect-Clip

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:44 am
by serotoninsteve
I would say a lot of graindelay and perhaps some timestretch artefacts.

Greetings

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:50 am
by 80rn7rue
see I tried the grain delay but it just made it like white noise ???

Anytips on settings atall from anybody I need this effect so I can stick it on my midi knob :P :P

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:40 pm
by David
Sounds like a very short delay or a chorus with some feedback? Maybe try playing with the Chorus in a Send and tweak the feedback knob...

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:42 pm
by jeskola
sounds terrible :lol:

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:22 pm
by Airbase
Really short delay (around 1-40 ms) that is made more wet during those rappid beat studders.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:04 pm
by Former Pharaoh
One way to achieve this effect (at least this is how i do it) is to make multiple copies of the snare note. The spacing is 1/32-1/64 depending how you want the effect to sound. HTH

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:42 pm
by ethios4
The two main things I hear are the 64th note snare rolls (or whatever quantization is being used....very fast) and occasional bursts of flanger, or any other short-delay based effect. Of course, that flanger sound could be a compression artifact...

One thing about those snare rolls...they sound a lot better if you tweak the volume and/or filter of the roll to give it some progression.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:31 pm
by 80rn7rue
:(

Ok Im confused now......

So I make an amen beat for instance using say battery and ableton then u say i make snare rolls by putting 1/64notes in after the main snare hit then I use the simple delay set to a fast delay to make it sound different ...... I have tried all day and it is just not working ?? If someone can explain what i need to do in terms assuming I am stupid at this stuff that would be cool,...........

Thx in advance

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:36 pm
by mosca
sounds like the plugins...

glitch and livecut

mo

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:43 pm
by 80rn7rue
Cool 1 problem I am on osX and these seem to be xp only I have listened to theGlitch demo mp3's and it sounds very similar :D:D is there a mac equivelant???

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:56 pm
by Former Pharaoh
Ok Im confused now......
Open a midi clip from your MIDI track loaded with battery. Now widen the length view of the clip so you can space it out anywhere between, let's just use 1/16-1/32 quantization. Now use the pencil tool and add in snare hits one right after another as many times as you need. Play the clip and you should hear that effect. If it's not quite spot on, experiment with the spacing until you get what you are looking for.
The closer the spacing, the more of a solid flanger effect you will get.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:59 pm
by Angstrom
I started using this effect way back when I heard Keith LeBlanc do it. He used to just use a really short loop of the begining of a snare ... and trigger it off a nice hexagonal pad.
well, it was the 80's.

brrrrrrrtt "Tackhead in the area" - etc. happy days.

these days we can modulate the start position a lot easier than he could on his Akai 900, and that will help you out :)

just program a load of snare hits at 1/128 and set impulse on gate and 0 release. brrrrrrrrr

modulate the sample start and pitch envelopes if you want to get the mutate-y sound.