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Mac Heads Steve Jobs Sure Did A "Job" On You Here Is Proof!!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:04 pm
by Private Eye
Now you can stop propagating the myth that macs are better than pc's because the same company makes the os and the hardware, time to stop sniffing nail polish and take a wiff of this.

http://www.musicgearnetwork.com/ubb/ult ... 1;t=013404

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:17 pm
by The Hulk
No need to get confrontational. Most mac users don't give a shit who makes the chips in their machines. It's all about the user experience (which most mac users would agree that it's much more desirable than a windows experience). Maybe if the Windows OS wasn't so clunky and prone to spy ware we'd all convert over (but damnit, PC laptops are usually uglier than macs!)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:57 pm
by Private Eye
Hulk, lookin forward to your movie :D , I'm not being confrontational, I am
a mac user, no longer a machead though and I'm jumping ship, tired of being toasted. let me tell you why. First of all most mac users do care about who makes the chip/hardware, it's the main point of every stupid ass mac/pc debate, if you don't then kudos to the enlightened but you will always see the comments "apple makes the os and the hardware so it's better blah blah bah humbug" Bs.

Macs are nice.
apple sucks hemoroids and this is why, they are full of more hot air than a hot air balloon, they've succesfully brainwashed their user base into thinking that
os x is great, core midi, core audio
but windows has had this since win98, of course stability arrived with win2000 and xp- rock solid, but listen to mac users talk like the heavens opened up since we don't have to use oms anymore, and because osx recognizes plug and play periphreals right... big fkn deal, windows has been doing this for ages but you wouldn't know it by all of the hype ass advertiseing and if you listened to people who claim they know what they are talking about on mac bbs's, I've got a friend who is educating me on the pc side of things before I make my leap and it pisses me off to no end
all the propaganda that our mac superiority is based on. we've been duped

another example is Logic, I'm done with that crap cause it suffers from the same ol bs and probably because it's mostly used on the mac check it,
logic is god right, all the pros use it right, Cakewalks Sonar is crap right?
wrong more apple seeds being planted in our asses. Sonar is dead stable on my friends pc and cakewalk has excellent customer service and knows what they are doing, but all I read is how Logic is god and then some body or some add tells you why, it's got this and it's got that, so many new features and sample accurate editing, mix in one window if you want, sync your audio clips together without going into a special editor more blah blah so it's so better than Sonar..... Well will some fkn body please tell me how can this be win Sonars been doin this crap from day 1......
I'd understand if Logic was truly innovative, but they might as well call the fkn program LogicSonar cause all they did was copy Sonar and put in all of Sonars features, that sonar had not only first but way before Logic, cubase, nuendo I mean since day one. BEfore some of you get mad at my post and sling rocks at me do your research first, cause that's what I did and I'm sick of all this hype. Sonar does it all, Did it first way before the others and cost way less, and is very stable but these fkn mac wankers all work for apple and promote apples Bs without even getting compensated.

Now a lot of people are finally coming to their senses, that's why you see alot of post saying yeah if you use logic go with apple, it's fkn funny, it's not even about computers anymore now macs are just dedicated hardware for Logic and that's all they are good for, how rediculous. Steve Jobs is not pimpin me for another fkn coin. all this talk about altivec, all this talk about the new chips, and what osx is going to do for us in the future, have we lost our marbles, do we actualy think microsoft and the pc
market is going to wait until apple, altivec, and the new chips/osx catch up
I don't think so, look at the gap right now, time moves on, in 5 years after osx is so perfect and delicous and the 970chips are muscle bound maniacs
what do we think it's going to be like on the windows side, it'll be fkn incredible and it doesn't take a genius to figure that out, people won't still be using xp, p4's and amd athlons in 5 years it'll be something else way better.

of course this is a long rant, i'm venting so don't point out the obvious, instead do the research and you'll be pissed too. I'm not taking this crap anymore no more apple jacks for me. intel and amd are making computers, steve jobs and apple are making movies.

peace and good luck with what you get.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 2:16 pm
by The Hulk
Hey, I can understand your frustration, but Microsoft is just as guilty, if not more so, of unfavorably controlling the OS and software market. I use PC and Mac (I used PC first) and you're going to find the same frustrations you're having now in different places...and you're going to have to use a less resolved interface and a machine that collects spyware and is prone to viruses. I'm telling you, if you can put your corporate frustrations aside, you'll realize you've been on a more satisfactory system for years. I do realize that PC usually gets stuff first because Windows is more programmer friendly, but OS X is just as programmer friendly, and if you check out OSXaudio.com you'll find that new, awesome software is being developed everywhere by independent developers everywhere.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 3:40 pm
by Alex Reynolds
If you're too dumb to figure out the difference between concepts like Design and Manufacturing, then you're probably beyond help.

In any case, all the Big Companies use their own and buy from each others' Chip Fabrication shops and then take bids from Assembly Plants in China, Singapore, Taiwan, Ireland and Other Countries. Assembly Plants put these Components together to Make Things for Big Companies, which distribute and market these Things.

Manufacturers do not set Specifications for Products. Designers in Big Companies implement Specifications and Manufacturers build to those Specifications. Designers solicit bids from many Manufacturers in order to Maximize Profit and keep Shareholders Happy.

In the case of Microsoft, it spends little money on true Research and Development into nuts and bolts hardware, and offloads this onto companies like Dell, Apple, AMD and HP. Its software R+D program consists of A: Stealing from Apple, B: Copying any other Competitor's Software and Pricing the Competitor Out of Business, or C: Buying out the Competitor. Parasitism is why Microsoft makes lots of Money. This company sucks Value out of Other People's Hard Work.

In Apple's case, it spends money on R+D for both Software and Hardware. It designs and markets Good, New Technology which Microsoft and other companies Steal. In the meantime, Apple tries to make a Reasonable Profit from people who want a Consistently High Quality User Experience.

Until you get a Clue, keep using and rebooting Windows, dumbass. :roll:

-Alex

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 3:50 pm
by Guest
so to cut through the bs - the guy is pirating stuff off Kazaa and is trying to rationalize the Windows :lol: advantage.

OSX is a real interface. I've got an iBook, and could'nt care less where the chips were manufactured. They are built to spec, to a design. It's all fookin pc board, it's where those circuits are going that matters. The thing is solid, and all the PC lappers I've touched were inclosed in plastics that were an embaressment to the science of injection molding.

XP has much improved stability, but its slower than anything made to date.
I've got several MS Employee's b*tchen about how slow their super machines are now. XP is just more overkill patches and spyware.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:18 pm
by Private Eye
tsk tsk... you guys are either retarded or, ...RETARDED. and probably the same person. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings with my post but please grow up, and if you're already grown do it again, in your case I'm sure it'll be worth the second try.

kazaa, injection molding, xp too slow ??!! what the fuck are you guys smoking, obviously each others chest hair, you can keep your limited edition David Karesh computers you fkn inbreds :P

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:23 pm
by cderum
Private Eye wrote: ". . . more apple seeds being planted in our asses."
but how can they see where to plant the apple seeds without all that spyware? 8)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:25 pm
by Guest
*yawn*

another mac vs. pc debate. how about you guys go write some music instead? :D

use the tools that work best for you!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 6:06 pm
by The Hulk
Anonymous wrote:*yawn*

another mac vs. pc debate. how about you guys go write some music instead? :D

use the tools that work best for you!
Amen to that. I only got into it cause I hate it when someone says "DON'T" use mac, use whatever is working, I know for me a mac is working better than a pc, but I can understand someone using a PC instead. Also, that guy's reasoning is flawed, so I feel obligated to respond to such misleading statements.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:54 am
by Guest
Can't you keep that Mac vs PC debates out of here? There are better places for mindless peeing contests, this forum is for musicians.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:08 pm
by Pitch Black
[loud, manly voice]

OK, EVERYBODY OUT OF THE POOL!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:12 pm
by jdg
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:04 pm
by Guest
iAgree :D

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:09 pm
by Alex Reynolds
Dogs are SO much better than cats. I don't even want to go there...

-Alex