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Can't midi-map Motif faders

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:05 am
by mungo
The wrong midi-in light is lit when using the sliders. I expect the midi-map light but instead get the track light. When pressing normal keyboard keys assignments are made as expected. The Remote option is enabled for both of the Motif midi ports.

I can map the knobs, but only when the remote-control button on the motif is off and the knobs are set to 'pan' or something. The sliders still cannot be mapped. I can record a midi loop and and slider changes are recorded as volume events - so the sliders are sending volume midi events.

It really comes down to this question: If Live can see the incoming midi data why can't it make a remote control assignment?

Oh, and the transport, solo and track select buttons send midi data but can't be assigned either. These are less important but equally annoying.

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:04 am
by mungo
I'm probably going to elevate this to a direct email to Ableton, but here's a bit more information.

Using MidiMonitor I can confirm that the Motif is sending the following (completely reasonable) midi messages:

Knobs
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 1 Pan (coarse) 62
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 1 Controller 35 62
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 1 Foot Control (fine) 60
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 1 Portamento Time (fine) 58

Faders
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 1 Channel Volume (coarse) 78
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 2 Channel Volume (coarse) 93
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 3 Channel Volume (coarse) 112
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 4 Channel Volume (coarse) 75

Channel Mute (press/releast)
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 1 Effect Control 1 (coarse) 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 1 Effect Control 1 (coarse) 1
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 2 Effect Control 1 (coarse) 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 2 Effect Control 1 (coarse) 1
(etc.)

Transport
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 115 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 115 0
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 116 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 116 0
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 117 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 117 0
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 114 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 114 0
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 118 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 118 0
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 119 127
YAMAHA MOTIF8 Port3 Control 16 Controller 119 0

So Live should be able to map 'em.

Fixed - user error (of course)

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:54 am
by mungo
Well, imagine that: User error. As always, I figure it out after sending an email. The Motif transmits all controller messages on midi port 3 (as listed in my midi debug output). I only had remoting turned on for port 1 and 2; port 3 was hidden and I needed to scroll down to see it.