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I have a Novation X-Station 49, EMU XK-6, and the FL Studio Sytrus softsynth and Prollerhead Reason 3.0...is it worth it for me to shell out $150 for Ableton Opertor?

I guess I'm looking to see if all the 'integration' that the Ableton synth would have with Live is worth it when I have Reason and Sytrus and a couple hardward synths too.

You know you can go to preferences and put it into demo mode right?

You can try it out all you like, you can't save the project, but you can play with it for as much as you like.

imo is an ok little synth, when I need some FM flavour it's nice and quick to dial up a sound on it, I'd wish the noise waveform was not a sample but you can create white noise easily if you know a bit of FM synthesis, it's also real easy to hook up to a controller, all the parameters can be midi learned just like everything else in live.

yes, it's brilliant. I've used it on countless commercial releases (well not countless, how big headed, a few!!)

it's awesome, the envelopes are excellent and the whole thing sounds class with very little diffficulty in designing sounds.

best bit is that it scales with your ability in that new users can get to grips with it very quickly and more experienced programmers can also do very cool things with it.

You'll enjoy every second.

jb61264 wrote:I have a Novation X-Station 49, EMU XK-6, and the FL Studio Sytrus softsynth and Prollerhead Reason 3.0...is it worth it for me to shell out $150 for Ableton Opertor?

I guess I'm looking to see if all the 'integration' that the Ableton synth would have with Live is worth it when I have Reason and Sytrus and a couple hardward synths too.

Hummm. Sytrus does kick ass But Operator is a one of a kind kind of synth i like it personaly i found Sytrus a bit over whelming But operator does intergrate verry easily and Has its own unique sounds. if only thed bring Sytrus out for mac as a vst plug in or better still bring out fruity loops for the mac. Yum Yum.

i like it alot, particularly with the operators' patches. try it in demo, as noted, and record the audio, which gives you near enough to what you get if you purchase.

I like it a lot. But then, I don't have any outboard gear.

You can't play Operator outside of Live, so think about that $150 if you use other software a lot. With $150, I would save up another $50 and get the educational version (only difference is price) of reaktor for $200. Thats my next plan i think. Operator looks good, but Reaktor looks reeaaally good.
I don't have Operator, unless Ableton package it with some other goodies as a new instrument package for Live 6 or something I might get it.

I like it. It does a nice 'plong'.

yes.

plong is good.

forge wrote:yes.

plong is good.

the lesser known "bwlaang" is also good.

For €159 you can currently get Korg Legacy Collection a package of synths : MS-20, Polysix, Wavestation and Library Cell which allows for creating pads using both MS20 and Polysix at the same time.

It also comes with a midi controller replica of the original MS-20 which is very usefull, especially since you can assign every knob to midi controls.
All this works in standalone, RTAS and VST.

Mika wrote:For €159 you can currently get Korg Legacy Collection a package of synths : MS-20, Polysix, Wavestation and Library Cell which allows for creating pads using both MS20 and Polysix at the same time.

It also comes with a midi controller replica of the original MS-20 which is very usefull, especially since you can assign every knob to midi controls.
All this works in standalone, RTAS and VST.

that's pretty impressive, where is it 159?

Machinate wrote:

forge wrote:yes.

plong is good.

the lesser known "bwlaang" is also good.

If you set your velocity sensitivity levels right, you can get a good groove going, that crossfades and bounces between both plong and bwlaang (as well schteeen, at higher velocity levels).

no_barcode wrote:

Machinate wrote:

forge wrote:yes.

plong is good.

the lesser known "bwlaang" is also good.

If you set your velocity sensitivity levels right, you can get a good groove going, that crossfades and bounces between both plong and bwlaang (as well schteeen, at higher velocity levels).

Ah yes: Schteeen. That's the Covert Operators' signature sound as well - Schteeen(tm)

It's very expensive, you can't use it in any other program (why would you use another program besides live is beyond me but...)

I sold my license last week for $50 - it never blew up like say Albino or even The Claw

I just got the Korg Legacy collection and I can't say I miss Operator -

Put it this way - you're not missing out on much if you have Reason. They can get into all these technical details about why Operator is more unique than "blah blah blah" but at the end of the day it comes down to whether it blows up and it didn't for me

it's a nice synth and only you can make that decision if you want to buy it - yes demo it and decide.

I say either spend your money on something more chunky and funky or save up and get something so far off the hook you wont need another synth - ZETA or a hardware synth