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I don't work for echo but I've been talking to them so much the last week and a half that I'm on a first name basis with them now.

the two new cards the 'stereo in/out' and the 'echo dj' will be available by the second week of august, the in/out is suppose to be $179-199. the echo dj is going for $229., the drivers for the echo indigo, the one that's out now are going to be upgraded and available at the same time. the new
features of that card will be 8 virtual outs, so that more than one application can be played through the card at the same time. It will still not be able to do pre listening as the physical outs and headphone out will still be monitoring the same signal. you'll have to use the echo dj for that.
the echo in/out card will not be capable of prelistening either.

I was really looking forward to the new cards, they're pcmcia, great driver reputation and all that but i'm pissed off that to use prelistening you'd have to buy two that's right TWO cards if you also want to record, because although the dj card will allow you two seperate stereo outputs it won't allow you to imput anything.

I am currently looking into the digigram vx cards, because they allow prelistening at least that's what i've heard and they used to cost 599 but are now 199 which is a very good deal, on the down side i've also heard that the socket connector on their cards doesn't last long, will be talking to
them tomorrow to get the lowdown, but right now it looks like a digiram vx
pocket for $199 is the deal to beat, you get stereo in/out and digital I think
plus prelistening ability and it's a 24bit card, and no I don't work for digigram, I'm a poor unemployed mofo looking for a job. if you don't need
imputs or prelistening, then without a doubt I'd go for the current echo indigo, because marceo at echo told me that after the driver update in august that the indigos price will go up $30.-$50. ---right now it's only $99.

ok that's my public service announcement for today now fuck off!

where can i get a digigram vx pocket for $199??

mannys music, hollywood or would not depending on who's telling the story.

Ive ordered one from ASAP in London £110 (DELIVERED), I only need it for prelistening, not recording so I should be OK, ITS GOING UP TO £130 NOW. Reviews Ive read suggest that it is very quiet and very easy to configure, Ill let people know how I get on with it in two or 3 weeks...

I've got the Digigram Vx pocket and it only has VX pocket out listed under
the output options in LIVE. Am I missing something?
I really hope I am.

bo

Has anyone treid using the echo indigo to pre listen with another (edirol ua-20 in my case) asio audio device?

It is possible to put both devices in the same asio setup with a decent latency ?

Ta,

Ian

Mic-Minimal,
I just want to ask to be sure, can you pre-listen with the Echo Dj card? The Echo Dj would be perfect for me if it can. My work around to not having a audio input to record to my lap top is I grab a blank CD throw it in my burner and record a cd full of vocal's and odd sounds and number each sound, then I will rip to my lap top and import to Live. I know it may take more time but I don't mind plus I end up with my own sample cd's that I make my self. Let me know about that Echo dj, if it can pre-listen or not? I have read that it can but I want to be sure.
Fuentes925

what's up fuentes, yes the echo dj can prelisten, but it won't be available til within the first two weeks of august, it'll be $229. at least thats what marcel of echo told me, you might want to try the digigram too, supposedly it will allow prelistening, and it's only $199. I'm going to try one out today if I have time, the thing is I've heard people reporting that the idigo also has a louder vollume than the regular outs on a laptop which
is something I've been wanting, even been looking into isolated headphones for that reason, anyway I'm not sure how good the vollume is on the digigram.

bohemian do you have the vxpocket or the vxpocket v2, cause that's important. let us know please.

that last post was by me, also something just occured to me, I don't see in any pictures where there is a head phone out on the vxpocket 2, so I'm wondering just how is the prelistening available, I emailed digigram maybe they'll tell me?

I bought echo indigo 2 weeks ago , I was looking for something small , I didnt want to carry on a usb device when I wanted to play in the park , or the starbucks drinking coffee , I wanted something small and powewrfull with good quality to master my tracks .
I'm very happy with my echo , I paid only 99 bucks , it has amazing sound quality and very loud . the only problem is that I cant use it with live to premonitoring or recording , but I decided to get something else to do this . when you are recording you dont need portability like when you are in the train or in the airplane making music , so echo is perfect for that . its only 99 bucks , what can I say??? get echo to play around with your laptop , if you use a laptop doesnt make any sense to carry on a usb interface almost half the size of your computer and very uncomfortable , so for recording and live premonitoring you can get something like m-audio quatro . at the end echo is $99 and quatro $260 .

I've got the Digi V2- only one set of outputs is available
and you can not use multiple soundcards with Live as far as I know.

It does have a headphone out - as well as digital and xlr in/outs.

I only get one set of output options for output and pre-listen.

Am I wrong? I'd love to have pre-listen.

bo

thanks for the echo tip guest,

hey bohemian
is the headphone out on the card or on that break out cable?, and hows the latency and hows the volume and sound quality, you got any tips or is there anything we should know before we go out and pick up the v2?
I mean good or bad like, it works with everything app flawlessly, or there's probs with this and that.


m

Anonymous wrote:.... if you use a laptop doesnt make any sense to carry on a usb interface almost half the size of your computer and very uncomfortable , so for recording and live premonitoring you can get something like m-audio quatro . at the end echo is $99 and quatro $260 .

firstly, as i've just put in a post about the 2/6, don't get a quattro they don't work. Secondly, the EMI 2/6 is bus powered so you dont have to take power supply and it's quite a cool little box, not very big, a little smaller than a video casette. check it out, 6 outs and i've found it to be reliable!

I'm using a VXPocket V2 and it does not have a headphone out, as it was one of the earliest V2's and came with a different breakout cable, which has the SMPTE and SPDIF IOs that the V1 lacked, but is still missing the headphone out. The newer ones have a headphone out, but they're still only stereo in/stereo out, so no use for anything requiring multi-outs, such as doing pre-listening. By that I mean, The SPDIF & headphone outs don't count as separate outputs, as far as the driver is concerned. There is the VXPocket 440 which has 2 separate stero IOs, but by the time you're spending that much $$$, the RME cards are probably worth considering.

The Echo DJ sounds great - do the Echo laptop cards all have solid drivers? I've got a 2-6 and I have to really increase the latency to use the headphone out.