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That's all I've got to say.

even if we could get the tempo map information in midi that would be a start to get things to lock properly
regards again to the team
POD

[quote="Agnishvatta"]That's all I've got to say. [/quote]
Absolutly true. Live would be a grat tool for live bands if it was posible to trigger miditrack "loops" (made with a integrated pattern editor...) and use VST-Instruments!

even if we could get the tempo map information in midi that would be a start to get things to lock properly....

...to trigger external stuff like synths with a litlle sequenzer, and record the audiout of the synth in sync with the playing LIVE. Please

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 4:01 pm Post subject:

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I have a dream and I may do a fake screen to show this of how i think midid could be incoroporated without makeing live a cubasalike sequencer.

You can have a selector for a track to choose midi or audio the same way you select inputs, or by selecing a midi input it would automatically become a midi track. You can also select a midi output the same way you usually would, insted of main 1:2 you can select midi port 1 channel 2 or similar. Hit record and play in you keyboard and hit stop so where you have your waveform you no have a midi sequence(say 2 bars) no where you have the wave type bits normally you can select to edit a few notes (only in the clip display, no extra windows) change the tune, maybe even warp, time signature, quantise etc. Now when you you are playing back a sequnce in sequnce view when you trigger a sample on an audio track it plays as usual and when you trigger a midi clip it outputs the midi messages to your synth/whatever so you can trigger little loops or whole 10 minute long twiddly bits, just like usual audio. Simple.

personaly, I hope live never integrates MIDI. there are plenty of great MIDI sequncers out there that work well with live, why complicate live by adding features that aren't really needed?

Because Myo, I dont want to have to buy another sequencer, especially when the only "MIDI" sequencers for my computer are wither very cheap not very good ones or fully specced audio + midi jobs, and I have no need for that now do I. Especially when ableton come up with some amazing solution to Live midi, remember playing live isnt just about Audio matey!

http://www.intuem.com/main.html

http://www.five12.com/numerology.html

Intuem is crap, tried that, mau have a look at this numerology thing.

myo wrote:personaly, I hope live never integrates MIDI. there are plenty of great MIDI sequncers out there that work well with live, why complicate live by adding features that aren't really needed?

That may be true for you - I would highly welcome something like the instrument tracks in logic.
Why? I love the GUI of live, I love the absence of a dongle I love the general concept how things can be done.
I would just like to use some instruments within live so I do not have to rewire with reason and launch two programs and save two files but have it all in a simple to use application.
That would be just great. And they can call it "ableton studio" if they just incorporate all the time saving and convenient features that are unique in live...

do have it one equivalent for PC ???

numerology is only good if you have a mac. also using two programs at once on a laptop in a live situation is a pain the arse. i would like live to incorporate a little midi-clip feature and be able to sequence my nord modular rack from within live!.

I myself would like some very basic MIDI capabilities not to controll synths or sound modules, but to control DMX lighting. It would be great to be able to add lighting effects to each clip for live performances. Or even to control external visual-effects applications like that made by onadime.com

myo wrote:http://www.intuem.com/main.html

http://www.five12.com/numerology.html

these always come up and they are only good on a mac.

i would like to manipulate small midi loops in the exact same way that i can manipulate audio -- with the warp tool. don't like the timing? forget abot quantise, drop some warp markers and drag things around. etc.

with regards to midi sequencing... is it such a stretch for Live? Live already semi-handles and recognizes midi (with midi map stuff and now with v3 it even pitches loops based on midi notes)... and Live can record continuous events like parameter animation. How much more would it take for Live to save a midi layer associated with a clip or not (similar to these envelope clips perhaps) and then to export that midi to a port of your choice during playback? Live recognizes the midi already, and recording the midi wouldn't even require Live to further translate/react-to it. Maybe? hrmmmm

Personally, I'd like to see something like that.

just musing,
scotty