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Hello there!

It's my first move into Live's forum.
I have this track for which I would like to have your opinion.
For all the hard eletronica lovers, junglists and extremers.

Hope you enjoy it!

Take care.


Sam.


The tracks link:

http://essaycollective.org/yellowboprec ... l_zero.mp3

one single opinion...?

is it that too much to ask?

dude how did you make this so well? whenever i i try to make some music it always comes out alright, but you can tell i use loops. is there a way so i can make it on big palette or something?

I think it's excellent. Kudos, keep it up! Nick

scubacell wrote:dude how did you make this so well? whenever i i try to make some music it always comes out alright, but you can tell i use loops. is there a way so i can make it on big palette or something?

hi there!

don't really know what you mean with "big palette", but if you can't make the loops sound not-loops, make music that only works with loops. That's basically what i do. if i can't make something work, i'll use it to my advantage, or i'll focus more inwhat i CAN do.

Frustration comes with the job but you can go around it more often than you think

nice sounds man.

having lots of sounds going on with the melody to accompany the structure is key i feel with electronic music. but when i keep adding layers they start to cover each other up.how did you learn to mix tracks and eq so that the different parts stand out from each other? what was/were your stumbling block(s) that kept you from making music how you wanted, but then after the blocks you just knew that now you had a better idea of what to do?

i haven't got that down yet with the changes and layers.

if you could throw some advice i would be thankful.

i like what you have done lots of changes with drum parts and melodies.

reminds me of aphex twin in a way, a track i can't name right now.

Yeah. Great track. I would love to hear more. Keep it up.

http://www.myspace.com/spackledbat

great stuff - I love the relative simplicity of it: a few synth sounds and a few drum loops. Easy.

kekka_fuza wrote:nice sounds man.

having lots of sounds going on with the melody to accompany the structure is key i feel with electronic music. but when i keep adding layers they start to cover each other up.how did you learn to mix tracks and eq so that the different parts stand out from each other? what was/were your stumbling block(s) that kept you from making music how you wanted, but then after the blocks you just knew that now you had a better idea of what to do?

i haven't got that down yet with the changes and layers.

if you could throw some advice i would be thankful.

Hi!

You ask a lot of questions and some are not easy to answer, mate.
I'll give it my best shot:

To keep layers apart from eachother try to remember that every instrument has it's own part in the story. don't throw in another layer if everything sounds good already.
another important thing is to aknowledge what "layer" really means. For a nice sounding mix (something i have yet to achieve) layers are not instruments or melodies or parts. layers are the space each instrument or melody take up in the frequency spectrum - if you have a bass going, don't throw in another layer that sounds bassy again because your bass will disappear along with the new layer. none of them will stand out. if you take this in consideration for every layer (the frequency spectrum) you'll be fine.
bare in mind that the different areas of the spectrum "support" different "amounts" of layers.

this, together with the right sequence of musical events (a melody goes in, then it goes out to give room to a new one, busy parts and quiet parts, bassy parts and treble parts, etc, etc, etc) and hours of hard work will get you there eventually.

there isn't really a magic formula for a good sounding mix.
the more you experiment and observe/listen the more confortable and familiar you get with all the factors that influence your result.

hope this helps in any way. the more specific you get with your questions, the easier it gets for other people to help you.

have fun with your music.

Thanks for the reply. I hear what you are saying. I think I am trying to compose with too many sounds going on at the same time. I need to make the sounds do more on their own without relying on extra parts to make them sound better. I need to break the habit of adding more and try to work with less. I know I kind of asked a lot with my post, but I thought it might be helpful to all of us trying to break out of the plateau of music creation that one experiences as a beginner if someone with an actual track completed could share some insight, which you did very well I might add. Thanks again.

hey SpacBat i just moved to portland and would like to find others using Live. how are you using it? it would be great to connect with some creative folks in the area.

Good track SamPull, I hope you keep sharing your stuff.