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Better Live live setup more Faderfox, SL may go Ebay

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:54 am
by rikhyray
After last night show I decided to change my live Live setup (put Ozonic, Korg MX, MPD 16 already on Ebay and SL is likely candidate) and am curious what you people think (advice and/or better ideas) I want minimal setup- notebook, 2 Faderfoxes, padKontrol, HD 25 and Indigo all fit in the Ableton bag and weight next to nothing, instead of lots of gear that is less usable.

I am disappointed with Novation SL -was fine in studio but giving me surprises onstage and I don not like "surprising gear" while performing.
Korg MX It is nice and fun but when I took it more seriously, spending lots of hours playing and programming I hit its limits, I dont buy any stories about some "star users" it is just not possible to get any thing pro with it, will probably get new 808 instead, lighter, though slightly bigger but good computer integration, motorised faders, clarity of UI... have to check how good it sounds, otherwise will get MPC 1000.
Ozonic dont want to know anymore about anything M audio, though was good to have it when SL acted "funny"
I just ordered LV2 Faderfox because LX works so perfectly, well built unit and its creator uses his brains well so expect pleasant surprise. It is pricy indeed, would coust 100 less if was made in China but I dont mind paying more for quality. Will buy microKontrol again, used one 2 years though not as fancy as SL it simply works , tiny keys are the compromise but it is easy to hook my own bigger keyboard as midi extension or ask organisers for any 61 keyboard.

One thing I am not decided is a soundcard, Indigo is OK for live sound, but some routing options could be good. So either waiting for (maybe) great TC or get Motu Ultralight that everybody seems to praise.
Any advice, tips, on that whole subject will be appreciated
Thanks in advance

P.S. Nebulae, I am sorry couldnt play your tune, I had a bunch of Punjabis, Afganis, Pakistanis( unfortunately no good Muslims at all, they were all drunk like skunks) in the audience demanding to play their CDs, though first managed to get them off the stage " fuck off or I call the security" then realised my mistake, this place did not have any security , my car parked right in front, no back exit. So I reconsidered quickly my strategic position,- ntegrated their music into the show, joined them dancing bhangra and kept it heavy uptempo till the end, going for becoming their bhai (brother) and "you are the best" option then get my car and myself trashed. I will definitely play your music in Frankfurt or other civilised place.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:31 pm
by rikhyray
I just looked at the Ebay Korg MX is already over 100 while the bloody M audio Ozonic still "0"
for anyone in Europe maybe interested here are the links.
Dont bother about shit I write/praise, got to sell but to fellow Abletonians let me be honest so below is nothing but the truth:
MPD 16 is as good as the top Akai`s didnt use it at all since padKontrol is better for me
http://cgi.ebay.de/Akai-MPD-16-pads-von ... dZViewItem
Korg MX used it for 1-2 weeks after buying, then didnt touch for few months and spent 1 week trying to see how far it can go. Great for the money specially for amateurs
http://cgi.ebay.de/Korg-MX-Groovbox-Kor ... dZViewItem
Ozonic great ide/concept but it is M audio, so it is stupid box, I got better then standard power supply from M audio so it never disconnected since then (I mean the infamous M audio Firewire problem) but I dont like the keys anymore, best from M audio but no match to Novation, Fatar, korg or Yamaha. I didnt use it much since i developed allergy for anything M audio.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Ozonic-M-audio-contr ... dZViewItem

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:40 pm
by cbass
how much for the SL? ill take one...

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:04 pm
by drq
Hello,

i'm interested in novation. PM me the exact model and the price, if you decide to sell it?

br,
drq

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:20 pm
by rikhyray
ha, ha nobody wants bloody M audio ?
No I am not selling Novation yet, only when I get the SL 37 or Zero. even with the bugs it is still the best controller for Ableton for the money ( it does not work so good with Reason that is why I am getting mK again) unless they fix the bugs I wont use it on stage but it is OK for studio.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:10 pm
by hambone1
I was really pleased to sell my Ozonic for almost what I paid for it! Don't give up yet!

I agree... the concept is sound, and if anyone other than M-Audio/Behringer/insert-cheap-Chinese-plastic-manufacturer here had implemented the concept, I'd probably still have it.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:28 pm
by rikhyray
hambone1 wrote:I was really pleased to sell my Ozonic for almost what I paid for it! Don't give up yet!

I agree... the concept is sound, and if anyone other than M-Audio/Behringer/insert-cheap-Chinese-plastic-manufacturer here had implemented the concept, I'd probably still have it.
I wish to be so lucky.
Novation SL 37 with 4 ins/ 4 outs would be perfect for me, doubt if they ever do it.