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New Track - Grateful Dead breaks remix

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:53 pm
by ethios4
Here's my remix of Little Nemo in Nightland, from Infrared Roses...

Little Nemo's Remix

It's a remix of a remix of live Dead...hehehe...

Enjoy!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:05 pm
by ethios4
Just played this out at Wakarusa festival....people were digging it...I was loving it!

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:05 pm
by mike holiday
nice i like the guitar

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:27 am
by Sten
I love the kick and bass you use to drive the beat, and I think you've processed the guitar well to sit in with the feel you're trying to create, and the mixing sounds loud and even. I think that the degree to which the guitar wanders take away from the mix, especially the beat and dancability. That's not to say you'd be better off without the sample, but I think it'd drive the track a little better with some shorter samples and glitchy treatments. Obviously it's a matter of taste, but I'm just throwing it out there.

Good track.

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:45 pm
by ethios4
Thanks for the feedback!
I've been wanting to venture into remixing the Grateful Dead for a while now, seeing as how they are my all-time favorite band/music. I think I might kick up the tempo a few bpm on this one....played it out last weekend at a jam-band festival and it felt a bit slow.

The extended guitar part, with Jerry talking underneath it, it does wander quite a bit, but I couldn't bring myself to modify it too much because of how Jerry's guitar lines from the 90's were matching up so perfectly with his stoned ramblings about musicians and money from '72. Maybe some creative FX and EQ could bring that part back into the realm of danceability...

Again, thanks for the feedback!!

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:36 am
by j0shu@
i just saw phil and friends as the final set at bonnaroo. it was actually very good. im not the biggest dead fan, but i appreciate a good bit of the songs and the old school drums and space jams.

joan osbourne was kicking it and they did a great cover of 'all along the watchtower.'

im dling this remix now...

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:21 am
by j0shu@
pretty good. liked the guitar.

dont like the break beats or the vocal samples as much, but thats just not my thang. good work.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:38 pm
by mike holiday
ethios4 wrote:Thanks for the feedback!
I've been wanting to venture into remixing the Grateful Dead for a while now, seeing as how they are my all-time favorite band/music.
i agree about the wandering guitar..i think it captures the feeling nice

i'm a fan of the dead as well! I'm going to see Ratdog next week!


i'm going to thow this in your thread (sorry) its a track i was messing with, where every sound in the track is sampled from a live version of "broke down palace"

BDP

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:09 pm
by ethios4
Thanks! That vocal part is iffy for sure.

The first time I saw any of those guys was at Oklahoma City in 2000 - that still stands as *the* best show I've ever seen...the reunion of Phil and Bobby. Crazy stuff there...

Super excited about Ratdog coming here in a couple of weeks... they always loved the Zoo Ampitheatre here...one of Jerry's favorite venues ever, because of the animals around...I'd swear Jerry was being channeled through Warren Haynes when I saw Phil at the Zoo in 2000.

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:10 pm
by mike holiday
is string cheese playing with ratdog there?


first show for me was 94 at the palace of auburn hills.

after that i was lucky enuff to catch a bunch on the west cost (fall 94 and summer 95 tours)
did the whole further festival in 96 (rat dog and mickey heart)

i'v only seen Phil & Friends once in 2002 at the dead reunion show at alpine valley wisconson.

all though the energy is aways good at those shows it just isn't the same :cry:

to bad about vince

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:49 pm
by DeadlyKungFu
That sounds really good, the guitar and drums work well together, guitar is clean and shiny, drums are grimy and aggressive. Good stuff!


Ever hear of DJ Harry's "The String Cheese Remix Project"? Pretty good album.

Instinct Records/SCI Fidelity Records released DJ Harry's debut CD, The String Cheese Remix Project, in 2001. DJ Harry had been deeply influenced by the Grateful Dead and especially a San Francisco DJ collective called the Wicked Crew, who performed dance music in the parking lots outside the Dead's shows. It was at such a show in the Bay Area that DJ Harry first saw the confluence of the two disparate genres' improvisational and spontaneous elements. He would meet the band the String Cheese Incident while he was working as a DJ in small local Colorado bars. Sensing the natural similarities between jam bands and electronica, DJ Harry approached the using of their songs to fuse the two genres. The String Cheese Incident granted DJ Harry access to their live archive from which he selected songs from multiple shows and set out to reinterpret the gigs as a continuous house mix. Fans of the String Cheese Incident will recognize the band's familiar songs in the spacious grooves where DJ Harry morphs and respects the original source material. About 90 percent of the driving 66-minute mix album comes from samples taken from music the band recorded onto a 24 track. The project includes five songs that sample from the Summer Tour 2000 and four that sample from Spring Cheese 2000. "Wake Up," for example, includes samples from "A String Cheese Incident" while "MLT" includes some great jazzy piano sounds from "'Round the Wheel." The standout track is "Texas" which samples "Born on the Wrong Planet" and which sounds like a funky dance version of the Sex and the City theme. With Remix Project, DJ Harry has helped create the new progressive house-jam genre populated by few others, including the Disco Biscuits. Typical criticism of jam bands is that the energy on their studio albums pales in comparison to their live gigs. The The String Cheese Remix Project captures the band's live flair and uses their pop-friendly jazz fusion to create a new trippy sound. This awesome album is fresh and exciting because free-form jam music fits the electronica genre perfectly and The String Cheese Remix Project is no less than 90 percent cliché free. The results are exciting, highly creative, and revolutionary.

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:21 am
by ethios4
mike,

Michael Kang is playing, but not the whole band. Full lineup is Ratdog, Michael Kang, Keller Williams, Taj Mahal, Green Lemon, and The Illz (Oklahoma's own killer live drum-n-bass jazz group). I had initially talked to the promoter about playing the show, but damn I just want to kick back and enjoy it!

The reunion show in 2000 in OKC was sooo good. Ratdog was excellent (Bob has a way of fucking with people's ego's that's astounding) but when Phil stepped onstage to jam with Bob for a bit...you could feel it like an earthquake of funk....Phil's set literally knocked me out of body for a second or two millenia. I sure wish I would have seen the Dead while Jerry was still here...

Unfortunately, I was still in high school for that final summer 95 tour, and my best friend ran away from home to hitchhike to those shows. I stayed behind and will probably forever wish I hadn't! Little did we know that was the end of an era, huh? Better seal that old silver mine....


Maybe I'll try to slip this remix into the between-sets music...;)

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:33 am
by ethios4
DKF -

Wow, thanks for posting that! I've never heard of DJ Harry, but I'll be checking that album out soon as I get back home!

The potential for the jam-band and post-rave scenes (especially psytrance) to come together seems huge to me. A lot of the jam bands have caught on to this and are actively incorporating elements of electronic music into their sets (STS9, Disco Biscuits, Lotus, etc...). I love the Dead, and the spirit of what the Dead were into, and the whole idea of spontaneous creation and jumping into the unknown during a live set, so I'm definitely interested in bridging gaps between jam-band scene and electronic scene.

Seems a lot of jam-band fans have hangups about "computer-music" and the "repetitive" nature of electronic music, and a lot of electronic music fans may have some latent love of jam-band music, or psychedelic rock, but don't see how to fit it into the electronic scene....so there's a nice niche there waiting to be mined.

Have you heard the Greyfolded album?
This guy (forgot his name) did a 2-disc remix of hundreds of live versions of Dark Star. No beats, just 100% Dark Star. So you get crazy stuff like a chorus of Jerry's from '68-'92 singing together, or a guitar solo from one year runnning againist a severely time-stretched solo from another year. Pretty neat stuff.....sometimes it's brilliant, and sometimes not, but all cool nonetheless.

Cheers!

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:30 am
by DeadlyKungFu
ethios4 wrote:Have you heard the Greyfolded album?
I'll definitely check that out. I bet he did that without Live 6 too. ;)

I like the Dead but not bluegrass so much, I dig their blues stuff, but as you said, it's the spontaneous moments that made the music, the live recordings. What struck me is the gap between the Dead fans and the techno fans, it's the generation in between that would be used to electronica and have the Dead roots. The Dead don't have to be around for their music to be heard but it was the live shows that made the genre. I guess if Jerry had lived another 10-15 years it would make the transistion easier and accelerate the new scene. Who knows what will happen, music always surprises me.

my drunken $0.02...

In other news...
"When it's over, all that's left is going to be one square mile of feces," said Alicia Spanhake of Steamboat Springs. "I hate hippies."

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:47 pm
by mike holiday
ratdog killed it!

first time iv seen them without rob, so i was a little skepital on that...
but the band sounded great

they did terripin in CA a few nights ago..maybe you'll get it!!


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