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Cue Volume doesn't send to BCR2000?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:21 am
by lummux
Just found that if I map a rotary encoder to the cue volume and then open up a live set with the cue volume up, if I move the encoder, the cue drops to zero.
Not a major issue, just a bit annoying, as all the other parameters (master, channel volumes etc) work fine
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:48 am
by Johnisfaster
you probably mapped it as relative or something, try the other kinds of mappings, absolute or something
don't recall which one works right
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:49 am
by DeadlyKungFu
mispost. Hey, look over there!
<runs away>
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:03 am
by lummux
Thanks chaps, it's not any of those, same in lots of different sets, and the encoder is set to Absolute, same as all the others. I think the issue is with Live. Like I say, not a big deal because it's only me that hears it, I only use it for the click.
Now if only I could figure out how to reset the BCR2000 for each set, I'd be sorted and able to do some work...
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:20 am
by hambone1
I have a Live clip assigned to a BCR button that uses CCs to reset all BCR rotary encoders.
It also gives a cool light show as the LED rings spin around as they reset themselves!
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:23 am
by lummux
hambone1 wrote:I have a Reset button on my BCR that uses CCs to reset every single assigned BCR mapping.
It also gives a cool light show as the LED rings spin around as they reset themselves!
Sounds perfect! How do you set that up?
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:27 am
by hambone1
One Live MIDI clip with 32 CCs like this:
Draw one, and copy and paste them into the other CCs you're controlling with your BCR rotary encoders that you want reset to zero.
I've assigned the MIDI clip to a BCR button, and use the IAC driver to route the CCs back into Live and to your BCR. Make sure the IAC Input Remote is enabled in MIDI/Sync Prefs. One button push now resets all 32 encoders.
Here's one that finishes leaving my crossfade BCR rotary encoder centered:
Note: You don't need the curves to make this work. You can just set the final CC value you want. I just like looking at the pretty light patterns when I reset the BCR... I'm easily amused!
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:34 am
by lummux
Thanks, that's great! works a treat. I only need to reset the BCR2000, so I don't need to use the IAC anyway.
This has also allowed me to set up the BCR2000 to work as a visual metronome, which is class...
Only problem I have now is some of the controllers are not in the drop down list in live (specifically, 96 and 98 )
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:39 am
by hambone1
The visual metronome is a cool idea. I might have to steal that one and maybe even map it to a DMX light. I HATE playing to a click track!
Some CCs are reserved for other uses in accordance with the MIDI standardized specifications.
There are plenty of others in the drop-down menu to choose from, though.
Or if you really want to use a number not listed, remap it with Plogue Bidule or a similar utility.
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:45 am
by lummux
Fair enough, not a big deal. I'm more pleased with my new visual metro, cos it's shiny
Still would like the cue info to be sent to the BCR though...I'm never satisfied!
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:59 am
by rozling
lummux wrote:Thanks chaps, it's not any of those, same in lots of different sets, and the encoder is set to Absolute, same as all the others. I think the issue is with Live. Like I say, not a big deal because it's only me that hears it, I only use it for the click.
Now if only I could figure out how to reset the BCR2000 for each set, I'd be sorted and able to do some work...
Check the max/min values for the encoder - you know when you hold edit, then move the cue encoder - the value on the 'val 1' labelled encoder should be 0 and 'val 2' should be 127.
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:05 pm
by lummux
I use BCEdit rather than program by hand, but the encoder is set to the same max and min values as all the others. I have a feeling that Live just doesn't send it for some reason...
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:20 pm
by hambone1
Are you saying that a BCR rotary control won't control cue volume?
I don't use cueing, but I just tested it. It works fine here.
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:55 pm
by TheAnimal
lummux wrote:
This has also allowed me to set up the BCR2000 to work as a visual metronome, which is class...
Cool idea!
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:15 pm
by lummux
hambone1 wrote:Are you saying that a BCR rotary control won't control cue volume?
I don't use cueing, but I just tested it. It works fine here.
No, the problem is that Live doesn't send a value to the BCR to tell it what value it is at. So when I open up a set, all the other controllers LED's light up indicating the current state of their associated parameter (e.g. master volume) but the controller for cue doesn't.
So if I then move the controller it starts again from zero