Holy Touch Screen Batman!
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:45 am
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Holy Touch Screen Batman!
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:06 am
What?!? Where?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:41 pm
The Lemur? This thing has been out for like a year. It has been discussed to no end already.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:00 pm
Read the post you goons, its been updated to 1.5 with MIDI out of the box no more OSC and Max for use in Live
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:26 pm
You never needed Max for MIDI on a Lemur, even with OSC. You just needed to have JazzEditor open.
Nice that they've eliminated that step now. Still saving my pennies!
Nice that they've eliminated that step now. Still saving my pennies!
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:48 pm
I'll wait for the second release of the hardware :/thx1138 wrote:Read the post you goons, its been updated to 1.5 with MIDI out of the box no more OSC and Max for use in Live
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:59 pm
Cool nice one for pointing that out, I read on here that you needed to have Max to facilitate OSC with Live.hambone1 wrote:You never needed Max for MIDI on a Lemur, even with OSC. You just needed to have JazzEditor open.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:22 pm
Excellent advice!gaspode wrote:[I'll wait for the second release of the hardware :/
IMO, the 800 x 600 screen resolution and size is too small.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:57 pm
I think that requirement may have actually changed in the 1.2 release, but my memory is foggy that far back...thx1138 wrote:Cool nice one for pointing that out, I read on here that you needed to have Max to facilitate OSC with Live.hambone1 wrote:You never needed Max for MIDI on a Lemur, even with OSC. You just needed to have JazzEditor open.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:23 pm
I'm still determined to replace my BCR2000 and Faderfox LX2 with a Lemur.
"It WILL be mine. Oh yes. It WILL be mine."
"It WILL be mine. Oh yes. It WILL be mine."
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:14 pm
Oh yeah... One day!hambone1 wrote:I'm still determined to replace my BCR2000 and Faderfox LX2 with a Lemur.
"It WILL be mine. Oh yes. It WILL be mine."
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:17 am
this sucks.. really. OSC is a good thing. midi support is a bad thing. it removes the incentive for live to support OSC which is WAY WAY WAY better than midi in every regard. IMHO, this isnt an upgrade. its a suck-grade (tm)
lemur
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:54 am
not to be rude, but most of the people talking 'bout the lemur here don't own actually one and still blame it, go check it out first 
midi: since rel. 1.2/1.3 it supports midi alongside osc. I don't understand why this sucks - yes in an ideal world all the host-applications would support osc since many years... but most of the bigger hosts still don't.
size: of course it would be nice to have a 23" lemur for studio use...but for live it's perfect to bring it with you in a moderately sized bag. with one stroke you can swap the screenlayout (prev/next). with two strokes to any of the predefined screens
minus: yes there are weak things about the lemur: it's very graphical oriented... and music isn't very graphical
. there is no physical 'feedback' whatsoever.
plus: you can have a very customized remote control. with rel 1.5 you can for example have several mackie control emulations. I use this to control live, reason and the fireface-sounddevice at the same time... so it's already worth 3(!) or more mcu's. then you can implement some additional step sequencers for drums or melodies ... some nice kaosspadstyle effect manipulations and for mixed applications: I'm controlling with the same controls some effects in live and some effects in my vj-application (modul8). anyway ... I'm drifting off.
the paradigmashift, which the lemur does, lies in the way you start doing interfaces: for a song rather than for one host/one software-tool. and yes the lemur is the first of its kind and we're still in 'middleage' with the whole remotecontrol-tecnology anyway
my 5p...cheers daniel
midi: since rel. 1.2/1.3 it supports midi alongside osc. I don't understand why this sucks - yes in an ideal world all the host-applications would support osc since many years... but most of the bigger hosts still don't.
size: of course it would be nice to have a 23" lemur for studio use...but for live it's perfect to bring it with you in a moderately sized bag. with one stroke you can swap the screenlayout (prev/next). with two strokes to any of the predefined screens
minus: yes there are weak things about the lemur: it's very graphical oriented... and music isn't very graphical
. there is no physical 'feedback' whatsoever.plus: you can have a very customized remote control. with rel 1.5 you can for example have several mackie control emulations. I use this to control live, reason and the fireface-sounddevice at the same time... so it's already worth 3(!) or more mcu's. then you can implement some additional step sequencers for drums or melodies ... some nice kaosspadstyle effect manipulations and for mixed applications: I'm controlling with the same controls some effects in live and some effects in my vj-application (modul8). anyway ... I'm drifting off.
the paradigmashift, which the lemur does, lies in the way you start doing interfaces: for a song rather than for one host/one software-tool. and yes the lemur is the first of its kind and we're still in 'middleage' with the whole remotecontrol-tecnology anyway
my 5p...cheers daniel
Re: lemur
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:26 am
this statement is very surprising.amorat wrote: yes there are weak things about the lemur: it's very graphical oriented... and music isn't very graphical
what do you mean by music isnt "graphical"? For me, sounds cannot be dissociated from shapes and colours.
and for that matter, i think the lemur's shapes and colours are way more appropriate than bland knobs and faders.
Ben
Re: lemur
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:47 am
http://www.yikers.com/video_sound_vibra ... mages.htmlBenshik wrote:this statement is very surprising.amorat wrote: yes there are weak things about the lemur: it's very graphical oriented... and music isn't very graphical
what do you mean by music isnt "graphical"? For me, sounds cannot be dissociated from shapes and colours.
and for that matter, i think the lemur's shapes and colours are way more appropriate than bland knobs and faders.
Ben