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Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:34 pm**

From the JazzMutant Forum (any ideas for a workaround?):

axel wrote:
Allison Redhead wrote:
axel wrote: Try using switches mapped to control change messages, instead of note on. It should get rid of the sync issues with Live. That's because when mapped to Note messages, Live's parameters only react to note ons, not note offs. I don't know why that is not configurable in Live. Using control changes fixes that.
So, switches, mapped to Midi 1 (not Midi 0 where mackie is) with control changes for controllers, say, 50 to 55 on channel 2? Then map those in Live to the MIDI?

That's close, but I still get disagreement between the switches and live.

Starting with all the cues "off" and all the switches "off" I do the following:

Depress switch #1: Live turns on cue for track #1. Lemur shows switch "on"
Depress switch #1 again: Live does nothing (cue #1 still on). Lemur shows switch "off"
Depress switch #1 again: Live turns off cue #1. Lemur shows switch "on."

Ack!
hmm... I've just tried here and it doesn't work indeed with the Cue buttons. Looks like a Live bug because the midi mapping is set to "Absolute" so it should turn on with a CC 127 and off with a CC 0. And it works with every other button (solo, mute, etc.)

So it looks like the only way to switch cue on and off with one tap is to use a pad, but you'll lose visual sync between Live and the Lemur. You might want to post on the ableton forum about this issue.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:36 pm**

From what I read here, Ableton added this "feature" on purpose for solo/cue as the state can be affected by other switches.

So you definitely have to use a pad which will send two messages at each press. I don't see any solution to get visual feedback, as Live doesn't even send the state of the button when Remote Out is enabled in the preferences.

Posted: **Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:43 pm**

the original question was how to cue multiple tracks from the Mackie template coming with the Lemur.
I just found the answer :

Looks like on the Mackie, you can cue multiple tracks by holding the "Ctrl" button while pressing the solo buttons.
So just create a Pad named "Ctrl" mapped to Note On 72 on the MIDI target used for Mackie Control. Hold it while pressing the Cue pads.
I've tried here and it works fine.

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