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Mbox deal, Any experiences?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:16 pm
by JAMM
I am thinking of buying a audio-interface mayby the M-audio 410,
but i saw a very good deal at digidesign.com
The Mbox together with protools LE, ableton Live, reason adapted,
T-racks, sampletank an d amplitube for the normal price of the Mbox!
Expecialy rewiring with protools is very interesting for me.
The only thing what i not like is the 2 outputs on the M-box and mayby the speed of the usb connection of the Mbox.

What do you guys think of the Mbox? Any Experiences?
I, am working on a powerbook 500, is it fast enough to rewire protools and Ableton. Please let me know.

Greetinz, Jamm :wink:

Mbox, I have it..

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:40 pm
by Gump152
Well for studio recording the MBox is great, but if you plan on playing sets live at clubs or whatever , you can not preview your samples in the headphones. Thats the only downfall to the MBOX. As for that pkg deal, I hear the LE versions of the software are VERY limited.
rob

Mbox, I have it..

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:43 pm
by Gump152
Well for studio recording the MBox is great, but if you plan on playing sets live at clubs or whatever , you can not preview your samples in the headphones. Thats the only downfall to the MBOX. As for that pkg deal, I hear the LE versions of the software are VERY limited.
rob

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:46 pm
by Pablo Honey
I'm not totally sure what's goin on with the Drivers for the LIve and the Mbox. If you use the ASIO steinberg drives you'll have about 43ms of overall latency which sucks if you want to record anything especailly in a performance setting. But Digidesign should be releasing a new CoreAudio driver for OSX soon. If that driver will have lower latency who knows? But I have a 001 and was a proud owner of a Mbox for over year and I like it alot. The deal your taliking about sounds great though, PT',s Live, andf Reason and an incredible trio! But beware, the ASIO drivers kind of suck with Digihardware and Live. But hey that might change is a couple weeks, when digi releases their new CoreAudio. Like I said above i'm not sure what's going on. I use OS9 I can reiwre Live to Reason, that's all I really need. But as far as the USB connection concern, it's just as solid as my PCI connection to the 001. But the 2 output thing is something you need to consider if you need multiple out's. Well I would go for it if I were you. If you don't need inputs directly into live, you could use the apple soundmanager and that's has low latency. Well I hope this helps. Check out the digi site to see when that CoreAudio driver is ready and see what people say. Take care

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:51 pm
by Jamm
For what i can see is only the reason software is limited, for me
as a registed reason user thats no problem. The protools Le version is
limited to 24 tracks but with all the other functions are working
or am i missing out on something and is there a catch to this deal?


Greetinz,
www.digidesign.com

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:19 pm
by s.balm
Hello Jamm,

Please be aware that the Live bundled with the Mbox is a special edition of Live. The version in the bundle does not have many of the features of the full version of Live.

thanks

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:08 pm
by jamm
Hello,

Okay, Thanks Pablo Honey and Gump152 for the replies.
Also thanks S.Balm for the reply. Mayby it is an idea for
digidesign that they say that live is not the full version.

Greetinz Jamm :wink:

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:56 am
by generic
it has taken a while for the mbox and live to really work together. when i first bought the mbox, i was running os9 and live 1.5. i couldn't even record into live. the mbox only worked with pro tools. now that i have osX and live 2.1, things are really working great. i do agree that not being able to preview samples through headphones sucks. but other than that i have no complaints.

i really would like to try reason adapted. even if it's a limited version it's cool that digi has added it to the LE software bundle.

as far as pro tools LE being limited. well LE does stand for limited edition. i just don't need more than 24 tracks or the overpriced TDM only plugins.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:13 am
by JAMM
Generic,
Are you saying you can't use TDM plug-ins in Pro tools LE?
Greetinz, Johan..

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:33 pm
by Tobie
FYI:

- Protools accepts RTAS and H-TDM (for host based TDM) plug-ins only.

- TDM plugins need DSPs (ie external dedicated processors not found in the Mbox, Digi 001, 002 & r002) to work, but usually H-TDM versions are available and work fine (sometimes CPU hungry though).

- the live bundled with protools LE looks more like Steinberg's Remix. It has NO rewire support, thus CANNOT be connected to protools in any way.

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:34 pm
by jamm
Okay, i understand

Strange that digidesign wants to promote rewire and
they put a non rewire version of live in the bundle.

greetinz Jamm

Asio driver Mbox

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 12:19 pm
by mr G. Uest
Hi

Regarding Asio and MBox; check out http://www.usb-audio.com/ They hava a driver that works with Mbox, among others...

Mr. G. Uest