recorded midi & audioVST plays back early
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:20 am
After recording a midi part (drum vst), it then plays back early!?
I'm using a Korg padKontrol with Live6... playing drums with toontrack DFHS as a VST. Recording without quantization, with delay compensation, with driver error compensation. Metronome on. Seemed responsive when I was recording.
Upon playback thought it sounded sloppy (must be the gear, right
). So I recorded again, but this time I put a little Edirol R-09 recorder (awesome btw) up to the speaker I was monitoring while recording. When I finished the beat, I used the Edirol to record Ableton's playback, also with the metronome on.
Opened up both Edirol recordings in Sound Forge, and aligned the the waveforms. The metronome waveform aligned perfectly, so there's no drift going on here. But it could be seen that upon Ableton's playback, the audio output from the drum VST moved 1ms earlier... Yeah, it's only 1ms
, I was just surprised the end result is earlier than when I was recording my beat to the metronome.
Is this delay "over"compensating? Is it compensating the midi latency, plug in latency, or audio latency (or all)? What's the best way to fix it? I suppose I could move the midi or delay the output by 1ms... but what about when I'm overdubbing midi... Then is it another 1ms off every time I overdub?
Looking forward to suggestions, thanks!
p.s. must be my playing that was "loose", unless it's midi jitter or something... haha. Could that be it? Please say yes. Anyways, better groove quantization in Live would be nice I suppose. But I'll just try and play better too.
I'm using a Korg padKontrol with Live6... playing drums with toontrack DFHS as a VST. Recording without quantization, with delay compensation, with driver error compensation. Metronome on. Seemed responsive when I was recording.
Upon playback thought it sounded sloppy (must be the gear, right
). So I recorded again, but this time I put a little Edirol R-09 recorder (awesome btw) up to the speaker I was monitoring while recording. When I finished the beat, I used the Edirol to record Ableton's playback, also with the metronome on.Opened up both Edirol recordings in Sound Forge, and aligned the the waveforms. The metronome waveform aligned perfectly, so there's no drift going on here. But it could be seen that upon Ableton's playback, the audio output from the drum VST moved 1ms earlier... Yeah, it's only 1ms
, I was just surprised the end result is earlier than when I was recording my beat to the metronome.Is this delay "over"compensating? Is it compensating the midi latency, plug in latency, or audio latency (or all)? What's the best way to fix it? I suppose I could move the midi or delay the output by 1ms... but what about when I'm overdubbing midi... Then is it another 1ms off every time I overdub?
Looking forward to suggestions, thanks!
p.s. must be my playing that was "loose", unless it's midi jitter or something... haha. Could that be it? Please say yes. Anyways, better groove quantization in Live would be nice I suppose. But I'll just try and play better too.