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Some Library-related confusion - if anyone has any advice, it'd be much appreciated...

Here's what I did:

1) downloaded demo of 6
2) elected to sort out the "library location" later (when truly upgrading to 6)
3) selected "desktop" as default location just as a temporary measure

Here's what happened next:

1) bunch of folders & presets appear on desktop (no surprises there)
2) loved 6 and upgraded!
3) wanted to add some chord/scale presets to library - but needed to sort out the "library location" issue first

Here's was my first solution:

1) I changed the "library path" to the audio folder that contains my entire audio collecton
2) changing the "library path" didn't move or create library & preset-related folders, so I revealed the package contents to manually install the Basics & the Lessons
3) I tried to "Manage" my Library - but was confronted with a "Nested Projects" error


So... Here's my confusion/problems/questions:

1) What is Nesting?
2) Is there a cleaner way to RE-install the Library?
3) If so - is there an ideal location?
4) If not (and I have to manually relocate stuff) what should be in the Library, apart from the "Basics" & the Lessons?
5) How do I integrate all my old Live 5 presets, etc - now that the option to automatically do it appears to have passed?


From what I can tell I'm not the only one with these/similar issues... it's not beyond me to trial & error this problem - but since my main Audio Library has become entagled in this I don't want to go blindly messing....

Any help?

Thanks in advance

bland_handl wrote: 1) What is Nesting?
2) Is there a cleaner way to RE-install the Library?
3) If so - is there an ideal location?
4) If not (and I have to manually relocate stuff) what should be in the Library, apart from the "Basics" & the Lessons?
5) How do I integrate all my old Live 5 presets, etc - now that the option to automatically do it appears to have passed?

One possibility among many:

1) every Live folder may have only 1 'Ableton Project Info' folder.
The Library has one, so no other projects can be in that folder or any of its
subfolders.

2) I don't know - I made mine manually
3) on your audio partition or unique partition
4) see below
5) see below

Here is my Ableton User directory layout:

Directory of G:\My Documents\Ableton


10/18/2006 04:30 AM <DIR> Library <- set this up in Options - Preferences - Library Path
10/29/2006 04:18 PM <DIR> Live Recordings <- set this up in Options - Preferences - Temporary Folder
10/18/2006 03:35 PM <DIR> Projects <- make this and put yout projects here

Directory of G:\My Documents\Ableton\Library


10/12/2006 07:17 PM <DIR> Ableton Project Info
10/13/2006 05:10 AM <DIR> Clips
10/07/2006 09:05 PM <DIR> Lessons
10/31/2006 05:19 AM <DIR> Presets <- Put your presets in here
10/01/2006 06:20 AM <DIR> Sample Hits
10/10/2006 09:51 PM <DIR> Samples <- multi-samples
10/13/2006 06:30 PM <DIR> Waveforms <- single samples

Directory of G:\My Documents\Ableton\Library\Ableton Project Info


10/01/2006 04:18 PM 12,288 IndexWin.db
10/12/2006 07:17 PM 2,371,562 Packages.cfg
10/01/2006 03:12 PM 878 Project.cfg
3 File(s) 2,384,728 bytes

Directory of G:\My Documents\Ableton\Library\Clips


10/13/2006 06:43 PM <DIR> Bass
10/01/2006 06:19 AM <DIR> Beats
10/13/2006 11:05 AM <DIR> Bleep
10/01/2006 06:20 AM <DIR> Brass
10/01/2006 06:20 AM <DIR> Choir
10/26/2006 11:48 AM <DIR> Drums
10/13/2006 06:44 PM <DIR> Instrument
10/26/2006 11:48 AM <DIR> Keys
10/13/2006 11:06 AM <DIR> Lead
10/03/2006 08:28 PM <DIR> Mallets
10/13/2006 11:06 AM <DIR> Pad
10/01/2006 06:20 AM <DIR> Percussion
10/26/2006 11:48 AM <DIR> Percussive
10/26/2006 11:48 AM <DIR> Plucked
10/03/2006 07:53 PM <DIR> Rhythmic
10/13/2006 06:45 PM <DIR> Slice
10/26/2006 11:48 AM <DIR> Sound-FX
10/26/2006 11:48 AM <DIR> Special FX
10/26/2006 11:48 AM <DIR> Strings
10/01/2006 06:05 AM <DIR> Synth
10/18/2006 07:03 PM <DIR> Test
10/13/2006 11:07 AM <DIR> Texture
10/03/2006 08:28 PM <DIR> Voice
10/01/2006 06:20 AM <DIR> Wind

Directory of G:\My Documents\Ableton\Library\Presets


10/15/2006 09:47 AM <DIR> Audio Effects
10/10/2006 02:19 PM <DIR> Instruments
10/13/2006 07:21 PM <DIR> MIDI Effects

Thanking you VERY much Arachnaut

Answered it all!

Just to check it - I just tried dragging my old Live 5 Operator Presets folder into the new Live 6 Presets folder and... Voila! There they are!

Thanks again