Ableton Forum

when you try and import an EXS instrument which has a sample mapped for C-2 , SAMPLER 'loses' all the sample references in the instrument and gives one of two results

A] a blank patch, no keymappings or velocity mappings at all
B] it reads the wav names wrong, it gives you something looking like user_yourname_documents_samples_presetname_aif and then maps these incorrectly titled soundfiles to the wrong keys - moving them up about 4 notes

which is even stranger because the instruments I'm using are WAVS not even AIFS

anyways, I downloaded the beta of 6.0.2 to see if it was fixed, and I get result [A], prior to the beta I was getting result - either way its broken...
if you import an instrument which starts on the note right above C-2 (C#-2), it works...


any chance this can be fixed in time for 6.0.2 ?

(edit: NO! its still not fixed in 6.0.3 ! ahhhhhhhhhhhhh)

j3l1yt0t5.sitesled.com/sampler-bug.zip


moog glocken1 - the samples start at C-2, import it and see what happens...
moog glocken2 - the samples start at the note above C-2 which is C#-2...

BUMP!

I'm baffled, I reported the bug & ableton reproduced it, weeks ago while we were on 6.0.2 beta2 or something........my brain damaged head tells me this should be fixed by now ? this cant be too complex to fix ?

I have experienced a few sampler racks that made live quit after a few bars.

LOFA wrote:I have experienced a few sampler racks that made live quit after a few bars.

great,
so is it a Live bug or is it Sampler?

as im uppin to 6 soon
and will buy Saampler.

Live is buggy for my computer right now in general. I can't tell you scientifically that it is or is not sampler. I also can't speak freely about the EIC, because I have not had the time to thoroughly evaluate it.

Part of me sincerely believes it should have purchased a slicer or drum utility instead of sampler/EIC, but faith/curiosity prevailed and EIC seemed like the best route to getting to know the sampler.

I could give you a more definitive opinion in a week.

Ater unfreezing my tracks and trying this out in 6.0.3 (for certain) live just crashed.

Contra wrote:

LOFA wrote:I have experienced a few sampler racks that made live quit after a few bars.

great,
so is it a Live bug or is it Sampler?

arent they one and the same ? sampler only works in live, so if it crashes they're both to blame if you catch my drift. and as for not owning sampler, well - you wont have to worry about racks of samplers causing crashes, right ?

If I were you contra, I'd get phatmatik pro for now - and pick up sampler next time you got the dough, jah willing the abletons will have ironed out this really embarassing bug by then.

I splashed out on some software for christmas, I got phatmatik pro for instance - I used it a year or two ago on PC, anyways....I see what all the 'we want a slicer' fuss is about now. But my solution for those people is thus: get phatmatik pro, its the shitbombbanana and thats no bullshit. I've only used it on my own sounds so far, mostly non-percussive samples - I've not used it for nicking grooves yet, but I intend to.

anyways...its sweet man, real sweet.....set up a couple of arps and racks with phatmatik pro and you're in glitch heaven.......its all down to your sequencing skills, blood. tonnes of great percussive/melodic potential out of pretty much any of your samples with phatmatik pro, and really quick to work with and get good/interesting results, very light on my dualcore macintel at least

let sampler age for another month or two, my sampler is mostly 'gathering dust' because I cant import my friggin exs patches - I have other shit to do, but still...its amazing how much of a spanner in the works this bug is and it gets so little attention.....i guess no one uses or intends to use/import exs patches starting at C-2 ?

thanks LOFA for confirming this bug on your machine, altho it doesnt crash my cpu - just spits out a crappy blank sampler patch.

when (if) i get sampler I will be importing EXS. Ableton please fix.

This IS a "sampler", right?

i am imported most of my exs library. which for me is just the logic 7's included library ...

and i haven't crashed it yet.

i have notcied that upon import some settings w/ the global/filter are incorrect as to render volume quite low, or 'off'.

i can not make sampler crash my system.

this bug isnt about crashing live/sampler.

its about importing patches that begin at C-2 (C minus 2) with the result being a blank patch.

are you saying this doesnt happen to you ?

,..

Hello b0unce,

unfortunately I was not aware of this problem, sorry.
I couldn't reproduce it either: an exs import with a
sample starting at C-2 seems to work for me.

Could you please repost the sampler-bug.zip?
It was not at its place anymore.

Thank you.
Ralf

Hi Ralf,
j3l1yt0t5.sitesled.com/sampler-bug.zip is online again

thats weird, maybe its a combination of variables then.
when I make a patch its only when I start at note C-2 that I get the blank results from sampler.

let us know if you reproduce it..

b0unce,

I've downloaded the file and could reproduce the problem.
Don't know if its a broken file or if the import function
behaves wrongly, but indeed I get a key range of [127,0],
which is strange enough (usually you have [0,127]), and also
the sample name is not retrieved correctly.

I'll let you know as soon as I have more info.

Ralf