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Best MIDI control surface for Live?

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:26 am
by dru
What do people here use as a good control surface for Live? What would be the best from the list of native control surfaces in Live?

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:37 am
by Tone Deft

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:40 am
by dru
My question was more specific..

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:40 am
by timothyallan
BCR + trigger finger + lemur + uc33 + o2 is the best for live, and for trance as well.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:04 am
by Tone Deft
bcr - most controls per square inch (but it's not small) and $$, NOT usb powered
uc33 - cheap, USB powered, small
trigger finger - decent drum pads, a few knobs and sliders, USB powered
novation SL25 - decent keys, drum pads suck, LCDs accompany automapping well.
bcf - where the BCR has 24 knobs the BCF has 8 motorized faders, faders are great for feeling volume levels.

go to a store and see what strikes you, lots of options out there. my advice would be to get one device at a time, use it to its fullest then see what kind of device compliments it.

lemur is $2400...

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:09 am
by sweetjesus
xone 3d? :P

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:13 am
by horsehead
Mackie Control is Great, it automatically updates over Midi when you create a new Track or add Pluggins, so you dont have to assign.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:19 am
by Tone Deft
sweetjesus wrote:xone 3d? :P
:lol: But of course!!

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:21 am
by CaseyDC
Tone Deft wrote:bcr - most controls per square inch (but it's not small) and $$, NOT usb powered
uc33 - cheap, USB powered, small
trigger finger - decent drum pads, a few knobs and sliders, USB powered
novation SL25 - decent keys, drum pads suck, LCDs accompany automapping well.
bcf - where the BCR has 24 knobs the BCF has 8 motorized faders, faders are great for feeling volume levels.

go to a store and see what strikes you, lots of options out there. my advice would be to get one device at a time, use it to its fullest then see what kind of device compliments it.

lemur is $2400...


I thought the bcr was usb powered....

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:25 am
by Machinate
CaseyDC wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:bcr - most controls per square inch (but it's not small) and $$, NOT usb powered
uc33 - cheap, USB powered, small
trigger finger - decent drum pads, a few knobs and sliders, USB powered
novation SL25 - decent keys, drum pads suck, LCDs accompany automapping well.
bcf - where the BCR has 24 knobs the BCF has 8 motorized faders, faders are great for feeling volume levels.

go to a store and see what strikes you, lots of options out there. my advice would be to get one device at a time, use it to its fullest then see what kind of device compliments it.

lemur is $2400...


I thought the bcr was usb powered....
Too many lights (over 500 little leds, actually, and the display.) It has a built-in PSU, so it's no biggie, really.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:25 am
by Tone Deft
CaseyDC wrote:I thought the bcr was usb powered....
noperooni, not with all those LEDs.

suppose
20 LEDs per knob (there are more)
5mA to power each knob (more like 10-15mA)
that's 100 mA total per knob possible
times 32 knobs is 3.2 amps, plus the microcontroller, buttons, display and internals to power.

USB only supports 500mA max at 5V.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:37 am
by dru
The UC33 looks like a good option. I currently own a Korg padKontrol and an Edirol PCR-50 keyboard.