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Dual core?

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:28 pm
by jedeye
I'm thinking about buying a dual core system and would like opinions from people who are already hooked up. Are the like's of ableton, reason & NI products, including instrument & fx plugins designed to operate on two core's.There are a lot of conflicting views on this, so i just need some kind of clarification so i dont waste money. Is it worth investing or should i wait?

cheers :D

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:49 pm
by Michael-SW
Live 6 is optimized for dual core. You should buy a dual core. All new "performace" CPUs are multi core. If you are shopping for a computer and it doesn't have a multi core CPU, it either has an old CPU or a budget CPU.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:55 pm
by wilxon
+1


The best machine (PC vs Mac argument aside) is the macbook pro Core 2 Duo 2.33ghz available in 15" & 17".

If you are a windows person, you can have it as a windows machine.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:58 pm
by robin
The sweet spot for the MBP in erms of cost/performance is actually the 2.16. :)


I've just got a macbook, what would I know :)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:10 pm
by wilxon
robin wrote:The sweet spot for the MBP in erms of cost/performance is actually the 2.16. :)


I've just got a macbook, what would I know :)

that is true, but i opted for the power.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:23 pm
by Tarekith
I got the 2.16, the extra few percent increase in power was not worth the added cost for me.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:37 pm
by mbenigni
I still haven't seen any improvement on Core Duo since upgrading from Live 5 to Live 6, so I think it's a case of YMMV.

Probably depends on how you configure your Live set, and what sort of demands you place on the system at run time. I'm told that the dual core support divides CPU demand up per track, but does that apply to track playback, track monitoring, or both?

As far as I can tell it does not apply to track monitoring. I most often use Live as a live VST host - if I create two tracks and put identical VST's on each, and monitor them real-time, Live 6 should theoretically use a little over half the CPU that Live 5 did. But in fact they come in about equal. :(

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:23 pm
by wilxon
ITS HERE, I HAVE IT, TIME TO LOAD UP LIVE 6 AND......

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:14 am
by stale bread
robin wrote:The sweet spot for the MBP in erms of cost/performance is actually the 2.16. :)


I've just got a macbook, what would I know :)
ouch i would of thought you would wait for the new 12" replacement coming in feb. suppose to be super thin, powerful and light ala the vaios.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:18 am
by robin
stale bread wrote:
robin wrote:The sweet spot for the MBP in erms of cost/performance is actually the 2.16. :)


I've just got a macbook, what would I know :)
ouch i would of thought you would wait for the new 12" replacement coming in feb. suppose to be super thin, powerful and light ala the vaios.
Rev A hardware is not Apple's forte. I needed a machine now not in 6 months and I'm not sure anything will come of this rumour.

The C2D macbook is super fast, solid, no whining, mooing etc Rev B init (oh and £850 including 3 year warranty!).

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:21 am
by stale bread
yeah but I know when they come out that you and I both are going to want one :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:25 am
by robin
stale bread wrote:yeah but I know when they come out that you and I both are going to want one :lol:
Would you want one if it cost $2250, was only 1.5GHz and had an x1400 or a intel 950? And the first batch had heat issues, say?

See, things aren't that clear cut.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:37 am
by stale bread
no course not, but I think apples days are numbered for crap like that, you know there is so much hype on their hardware even though the same people that make it make pc hardware too,, but I think lately that mac-tonians are tired of this rev a voodoo, if apple keeps that up they're going to reverse their hard earned success.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:59 am
by wilxon
robin wrote:
Rev A hardware is not Apple's forte. I needed a machine now not in 6 months and I'm not sure anything will come of this rumour.

The C2D macbook is super fast, solid, no whining, mooing etc Rev B init (oh and £850 including 3 year warranty!).
excactly, the only way i do things is by holding off as long as possible and then - when you have gone as long as you can, when you really really need to upgrade -

then get one - no matter what may be coming up.

There will always be something more powerful/faster/smaller/bigger in 6 months time.

my brother bought a macbook pro 6 months ago - all he has to say about the core 2 duo is that - "the core 3 tripo will be out next year, perhaps i will get one of those"

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:01 am
by robin
wilxon wrote: There will always be something more powerful/faster/smaller/bigger in 6 months time.

Yep, Santa Rosa etc etc. After that a die shrink of Merom etc etc... :)