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Yo. Bought myself a mac book recently but most of my software is pc-based so I partitioned the drive and did a windows install on it...

Now when I play any kind of audio (even just mp3s through a media player) in XP the audio glitches and skips a lot...

Just wondering if anyone else had this problem or if they know how it could be fixed?

Not sure if I should try a driver update as there are mac drivers for windows installed for xp so I don't know if updating drivers would affect how xp is working at the moment or not...

I've not yet installed a soundcard (other than the standard one) but I don't think the audio should be glitching anyway...?

Thanks,
Simon

So you've installed the drivers that you created with Bootcamp? Can't see what the problem would be after a clean install... Try installing your soundcard (with the latest XP drivers of course) and see what happens.

First of all, make sure that you're using the latest version of bootcamp (current is 1.1.2 beta or something). Try re-installing the apple drivers for good luck. If all else fails, go with an external soundcard, as some other people (self included) have had problems with the apple soundcard drivers in the past..

Yeah. The thing is all the drivers are mac-based as the hardware is mac. During the installation of boot camp, a cd of all your drivers is burnt which you then install afterwards on windows, I don't think a conventional windows update will yield any worthwhile results... I made sure all the osx drivers were up to date before the install though.

Gonna try installing my m-audio firewire box and hope that sorts it out.

[edit] : thanks, I'll try the drivers again. Hope the new soundcard sorts it out tho...

not for nothing, but you're wasting your time. The drivers the come with boot camp are shite. I always have crackles in my sound, and the wireless drivers suck ass, sometimes not connecting to WEP properly. There's nothing you can do about it until the next release of Boot Camp. Besides these issues, windows xp runs stable as shit.

excuse my arrogance, [ahh i forgot the software LOL] but why are you doing this to yourself?, buying a macbook and running windows... no wonder you have problems, if you need windows shit buy a damn PC. what a waste.

excuse my utter arrogance, but i still don't get this, it's like buying a ferrari and putting dog piss into it and then expecting it to go 250 miles per hour...

sorry.

stinky wrote:...sometimes not connecting to WEP properly..

Ooooh, this happens to me too (though interestingly enough, only on my mac mini running bootcamp and not my mbp). Anyways, I feel your pain, brutha.

Subfunk;

I personally need both for work, configured this exact way. But, even if I didn't, it fucking rocks, and works really well. Sure, bootcamp is beta, and the drivers don't all work, but having windows on my Macbook rox. And, now that i'm using the new version of Parallels, and Bootcamp, I have the best of all worlds.

It's simply because I can, and it rocks. And, I have the patience to make it work right. So, maybe Bootcamp is in beta, but, try not to get your panties in a bunch, getting offended by windows on a pc. That's just as much of a waste of time as thinking osx is better than windows.

Oh BTW. The reason the drivers don't work have nothing with windows. That's apple fault, plain and simple, and I'm assuming that it'll get fixed with the next iteration of Boot Camp.

SubFunk wrote:excuse my arrogance, [ahh i forgot the software LOL] but why are you doing this to yourself?, buying a macbook and running windows... no wonder you have problems, if you need windows shit buy a damn PC. what a waste.

sorry.

Sorry, I'm not about to buy an overpriced apple and and a crappy PC just so I have access to all the software that I need, especially when bootcamp works great 95% of the time.

Some people just don't see the point of dual-booting OSX and Windows when you could emulate Windows with parallels or vmware. Others (like myself) need both for work, and some people just can't live without some certain plugin or host only available for one of the two platforms. If you're not in one of these groups, then fine, I can totally understand that.... but quit hijacking this guy's thread if you don't have any help to offer him other than "buy a new computer".

stinky wrote:Subfunk;

I personally need both for work, configured this exact way. But, even if I didn't, it fucking rocks, and works really well. Sure, bootcamp is beta, and the drivers don't all work, but having windows on my Macbook rox. And, now that i'm using the new version of Parallels, and Bootcamp, I have the best of all worlds.

It's simply because I can, and it rocks. And, I have the patience to make it work right. So, maybe Bootcamp is in beta, but, try not to get your panties in a bunch, getting offended by windows on a pc. That's just as much of a waste of time as thinking osx is better than windows.

Oh BTW. The reason the drivers don't work have nothing with windows. That's apple fault, plain and simple, and I'm assuming that it'll get fixed with the next iteration of Boot Camp.

fair enough, i personally just don't get it.

peace.

sqook wrote:

SubFunk wrote:excuse my arrogance, [ahh i forgot the software LOL] but why are you doing this to yourself?, buying a macbook and running windows... no wonder you have problems, if you need windows shit buy a damn PC. what a waste.

sorry.

Sorry, I'm not about to buy an overpriced apple and and a crappy PC just so I have access to all the software that I need, especially when bootcamp works great 95% of the time.

Some people just don't see the point of dual-booting OSX and Windows when you could emulate Windows with parallels or vmware. Others (like myself) need both for work, and some people just can't live without some certain plugin or host only available for one of the two platforms. If you're not in one of these groups, then fine, I can totally understand that.... but quit hijacking this guy's thread if you don't have any help to offer him other than "buy a new computer".

not intended to hi-jack the thread, just try to understand WHY! and your answers / explanations helped a little even it is still hazy to me. peace.

what is there concrete you need that windows offers and OSX not? except apps that doesn't have anything to do with audio...

SubFunk wrote:excuse my arrogance, [ahh i forgot the software LOL] but why are you doing this to yourself?, buying a macbook and running windows... no wonder you have problems, if you need windows shit buy a damn PC. what a waste.

excuse my utter arrogance, but i still don't get this, it's like buying a ferrari and putting dog piss into it and then expecting it to go 250 miles per hour...

sorry.

The reason is although I actually prefer the stability and workflow osx provides, most of my audio plugins are windows-based. Therefore the idea is to make a tune in windows, export all the clips and perform live in osx.

Plus it looks much sexier!!!

Still haven't found a solution to my problem though... Wonder if it actually is boot camp or if I've done something wrong (although my friend/production partner bought the EXACT same set up and has the EXACT same problem... hmmmm) and if so what can I do to fix it?

SubFunk wrote:what is there concrete you need that windows offers and OSX not? except apps that doesn't have anything to do with audio...

What windows audio apps does mac not have? I'll make a quick list:

1. Adobe audition (though I guess mac users can pray one day adobe ports it)
2. Sonar
3. Rebirth (classic emulation isn't supported on intel macs, and some of us still dig that old-skool sound)
4. FL Studio. Don't laugh, either... some of the best and most successful producers I know use it exclusively.
5. About ten million free VST plugins, 99% of which are shit, but the other 1% of them good enough to make any decent mac-only producer envious

Anyways, I would go on, but now I'm the one hijacking this guy's thread. We can just agree to disagree.

si. wrote:(although my friend/production partner bought the EXACT same set up and has the EXACT same problem... hmmmm) and if so what can I do to fix it?

This is a HUGE red flag that indicates that it's not your fault. You should go to the apple forums and post under the bootcamp forum. Be sure to be detailed and include all of your hardware info... there are some good posters there who might be able to let you know if this is a known bug, or a new problem.

sqook wrote:This is a HUGE red flag that indicates that it's not your fault. You should go to the apple forums and post under the bootcamp forum. Be sure to be detailed and include all of your hardware info... there are some good posters there who might be able to let you know if this is a known bug, or a new problem.

I'll give that a go now... Thanks man