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freeze overwrites previous files

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:05 am
by forge
if you freeze a track and then unfreeze and change something then freeze it again then the previous freeze render should be overwritten because it is no longer needed

or at least a dialog "do you want to delete the previous freeze file"

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:28 am
by Poster
sounds very logical..
+1

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:00 pm
by nihad
+1

very anoying when i want to freeze reaktor stuff and it's not "refreezing" ..

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:34 pm
by Tarekith
+1

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:51 pm
by qwanta
I think the problem is that you could be using the old clip in the arrangement view.

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:57 pm
by Poster
qwanta wrote:I think the problem is that you could be using the old clip in the arrangement view.

doesn't Live freeze the whole track as 1 audio file?
not sure.. never checked..

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:27 pm
by qwanta
Poster wrote:doesn't Live freeze the whole track as 1 audio file?
not sure.. never checked..
yes, but you can use frozen clips in any audio track not just the one they were frozen in.

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:35 pm
by Poster
'kee..

I hardly freeze since dual core support so I never really had a good look at it..

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:52 pm
by forge
qwanta wrote:I think the problem is that you could be using the old clip in the arrangement view.
that's not it - I'm talking about when you "unfreeze" - which means it reverts back to how it was before you froze it

so if you then change anything and freeze again it will create a new freeze

I'm saying there is never going to be a situation when you need the old when kept, and if there is you can drag the file from the freeze folder or copy it

just another reason to unneccessarily fill your hard drive

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:09 pm
by qwanta
OK, you have a frozen track (A). Now you move a frozen clip from this track (A) into another audio track (B). Now unfreeze the original track (A) - the frozen clip in track B is unaffected. Modify the clip in track A and refreeze it - the clip in track B does not 'update' - you now have 2 different clips: 1 in track A and 1 in track B.

You can't simply delete the clip in track B when track A is refrozen because it is being used.

I agree with other FR's though that Live really needs more options and control over the linkage of clips so that modifications of a source clip spread to all linked-clip instances ('ghost'-clips)