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Hi guys

Does anybody know how to recreate that distinct benny bennasi sound loop?

is there a special software I can use ???

thanks a lot
ash

Basic saw wave + reverb + sidechain compression

saw bass
no filter
massif compressor with deep threshold on master or compressor with sidechain of kick on bass

Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:Basic saw wave + reverb + sidechain compression

lol beat me to it, ur not from italy are u

No I'm from Norway, as it says below my user name.

..Or was it a joke I totally didn't get

Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:No I'm from Norway, as it says below my user name.

..Or was it a joke I totally didn't get

the latter

i think benny is italian

I replicated this sound a while ago using a mono saw, UAD LA2A compressor on 1st master insert followed by Waves L2 limiter + db procomp for reverb sidechainig with kick. Reverb is a hardware REV2496 reverb, I now hear there is a little too much verb on it, but that's easily fixed

The key is to give the kick an enormous amount of headroom in the mix, and the bass sound has to be playing pretty quiet. Now when you put a decent compressor on the master, the compr. is going to pull up the bass after each kick and together with the reverb sidechain you get the infamous sound

Check it: http://users.pandora.be/division/bennyb.mp3

1) open Operator
2) Wave A - SwD
3) Wave B - Sin
4) Level B - -5.0 db
5) Activate Pitch Shell and click on G (Glide)
6) Add Reverb with high decay
7) Add Compressor with very long attack, very short Release and very high Threshold
8) your done

you know, I've listened to ALOT of Benny Benassi and I think that most of the time he's not using sidechain compression. He's just mixes the kick louder than the rest of the mix and compresses it heavily. That'll cause the pumping sound. Also, if you notice, the saw "bass" sound he uses isn't that subby. And actually, I've had better results using a limiter intead of a compressor on the main mix (in Logic).

Check out this article of Robbie Rivera who influenced Benny.
http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?s ... code=12203

is there a stand alone software to reproduce this sound out there ?

neodjandre wrote:is there a stand alone software to reproduce this sound out there ?

Hey, that's the Vaio I have!!!

no one software in particular

but sidechain compression helps

neodjandre wrote:is there a stand alone software to reproduce this sound out there ?

I encourage you NOT to try to recreate the standard electro-house sound, because it's really awful, and 90% of the dj-centric tracks in that genre are VERY similar. Write some real electro. However, the Arturia Minimoog VST does a hell of a job making big saw waves.

the_planet wrote:

neodjandre wrote:is there a stand alone software to reproduce this sound out there ?

I encourage you NOT to try to recreate the standard electro-house sound, because it's really awful, and 90% of the dj-centric tracks in that genre are VERY similar. Write some real electro. However, the Arturia Minimoog VST does a hell of a job making big saw waves.

i am not the one who wants to do this... and i entirely agree with what you are saying !! i feel the same

If your not a compressor geek and want a cheap way of acheiving the same kind of effect, I use a utility and just duplicate a little automation on the gain over a bassline to duck the kick.

What you could do then is stick a reverb after the utility and a very low wet percentage, and have some sort of limiter to bring the volume right up to 0, so when the bass ducks the reverb tail gets brought up to 0db

I wrote something more in depth on this a while back but i cant find it again so heres the screen shot and the mp3 sample I made..

Channel 6 is the bass and channel 7 is the kick



the clip is here

http://psy-tearoa.com/COSM/techhouse.mp3

Different style/effect but same method.

COSM wrote:If your not a compressor geek and want a cheap way of acheiving the same kind of effect, I use a utility and just duplicate a little automation on the gain over a bassline to duck the kick.

A related trick is to use an unlinked one-beat clip volume automation to do this without the cut and paste (I suppose you could use a utility and 1-beat dummy clips also, so as to not tie it to particular basslines).