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I love you guys over at Ableton, but here is a serious deal. WE NEED 64BIT!!! 32bit can stick with XP for now. We need 64 bit first. If not, you will lose many customers to Sonar Cakewalk....A program I really hated until they made it possible to run over 100 plugins and effects with audio and midi tracks simultaneously on a Core 2 Duo with 8GB of RAM!!! We need some seriously distributed processing that only a 64bit environment can produce.

AND WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK!!!

64 bit for osx first!!!!!

somehow i really don't think people will change their platform just because there is no support for 64 bit yet ..

stability over hype!

There is plenty support for 64bit. In fact, Cakewalk's Sonar 6 FULLY supports 64bit versions of both XP and 64bit. Sonar and EMu have sound cards that support it too. Plugins will fall in line soon. Vember is already shipping vista compatible plugins. I'm not just rooting for Vista, I still use XP, and have a copy of x64 waiting for true support by Ableton. Plugins can always come later.

well, the days of 32bit computing are quickly nearing an end regardless. 64bit definitely provides advantages for audio and video production.

http://www.cakewalk.com/x64/default.asp

SONAR provides a 32bit engine along with its 64bit version, so older CPU's can run the software cleanly. They're the first DAW producer to move ahead-- EVERYbody else is behind the curve for now

Mac OSX 10.5 (leopard) will be fully 64bit top-to-bottom. My hope is that LIVE 7 will run 64bit and 32bit (in case i still have my older Wintel laptop with me at live gigs)

My intention is just to wait a bit longer to upgrade to a MacBook Pro, so i can run leopard fully 64bit on the next upgrade in processors/RAM speed, and also run SONAR 64bit on a Vista BootCamp partition (no more need for a Wintel only PC)

peace

I'd settle for a 64 bit floating point engine in Windows XP fo now.

You guys don't know what you are talking about.... I bet none of you wining about 64 bit even hear the difference between a 16 bit wav and an mp3.

Cheers

Ray

It's not about the sound...but the speed of the engine & the amount of RAM x64 can address.

tylast wrote:It's not about the sound...but the speed of the engine & the amount of RAM x64 can address.

right on

it's also about the increased bit depth that gives you much more digital headroom (so even less distortion at high track counts)

and, btw, there (is?) was supposedly a 64bit beta version of Windows XP Professional that was available as an upgrade, at least until Vista was released.

i'm anxious to be able to do more with one machine -- ie, fully realized and improvised audio/video on one laptop

hoffman2k wrote:64 bit for osx first!!!!!

errr it already is

He means Live

The 64bit version of XP Professional has been in its final stage since last year. I actually own a copy, but waiting for Waves and Native Instruments support. NI told me today that there should be a statement within a few days on their site.

64-bit benefits:
- More RAM (More audio tracks and files running in memory use the HDD less. This mean no clicking and popping because of buffer issues with SATA, PATA, or SCSI drives. VISTA really steps in here as it can put your entire project (including the Host application and all its files in RAM) If you can afford a server with 128GB of Ram, you can even run the whole OS in memory.
- Better Multicore Processing
- More Plugins simultaneously
- Better Audio Quality (Headroom/BitDepth/Surround/EFFECTS CAPABILITIES)
- Video Enhancements
- The future

64-bit Challenges
- Exponential programming (More work for hobby developers)
- Hardware Variety (But the best companies like EMu will catch up)
- Plugin Variety (This will be slower because of programming stresses i.e.: staff, concepts, programming logic adjustments, etc.)
- Actually buying 8+ gigs of RAM for those who want it. 2GB Modules (one stick with 2GB) are currently $450+

I don't really care about VISTA's new audio stack as it is really geared to gaming and home entertainment systems for media PC. But its support for 64bit CPU, 128GB of RAM support!!!, and better handling of running applications is what I pay attention to. Driver companies will work out the kinks to utilize the audio capabilities of Vista. We know Microsoft is funny, but they are not stupid...there is much to come out of this OS. XP is still fine, but its time is really short. I would like to have the audio enhancements that 64bit offers.

Hehe.

I wonder how many times a dude with 128gb ram in his signature, will have to hear "Dude, you should at least get 512mb".

128gb is just insane..

cool, 30,000 dollars worth of RAM!