Monome and Me

ahlstrominfo · Post by **ahlstrominfo** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:51 pm

So I've updated the code over at monome.org and here you can se the result.
Now I can use up to 8 maps/grids of 7x8 buttons to for use with the Ableton Live.

Also addad a feature so that if you hold down one of the lower buttons and then press a button it fires of another note.

So you can potentially have 448 buttons with lights and then 448 more buttons to trigger effects and samples.

Watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IZXwSt7Njc

dj superflat · Post by **dj superflat** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:03 am

very cool. at the risk of starting a debate, this really seems like playing music to me, and superfun as well.

muthafunka · Post by **muthafunka** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:28 am

That is pretty hot indeed. Excuse my ignorance but how do you have the clips set up to the buttons/slices or sample position so that everything stays in time no matter which past of the sample you click?

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:28 am

nice work!

ahlstrominfo · Post by **ahlstrominfo** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:37 am

muthafunka wrote:That is pretty hot indeed. Excuse my ignorance but how do you have the clips set up to the buttons/slices or sample position so that everything stays in time no matter which past of the sample you click?

I do it like this:
1. Add a clip.
2. Set quantisation to the loop to every beat.
3. Set follow action on the clip to "next"
4. Set so that the follow action happens every half a beat or something.
5. Copy clip and move the start position a half a beat or something.
6. Connect monome-buttons to clips via midi. Press first button and se
the magic.

If you have beats that you want to cancel out each other but still move in the clips, like the two diffrent "chemical brothers"-drums and voice in the video, you but the clips in the same track still using follow actions but between the diffrent loops you add a space or scene.

muthafunka · Post by **muthafunka** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:57 am

Schweet, thanks, off to bend my brain round some of that right now!

Bassic Dave · Post by **Bassic Dave** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:38 pm

wow- your chuck programming is awesome. ive been thinking of getting one of these for live performance, but is the limitation to your setup that you can still only have 7*8=56 loops mapped to ableton? If you think minimum 5 loops per song this is only 11 songs in a set? i think the ability to jump around in loops like this could be great live, even closer to playing a real instrument. Is there a way to have all eight banks on one midi channel, and eight more on another? this would fix the limited number of loops problem.

Sorry for all the questions, you do great work.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:24 pm

ahlstrominfo wrote:
muthafunka wrote:That is pretty hot indeed. Excuse my ignorance but how do you have the clips set up to the buttons/slices or sample position so that everything stays in time no matter which past of the sample you click?
I do it like this:
1. Add a clip.
2. Set quantisation to the loop to every beat.
3. Set follow action on the clip to "next"
4. Set so that the follow action happens every half a beat or something.
5. Copy clip and move the start position a half a beat or something.
6. Connect monome-buttons to clips via midi. Press first button and se
the magic.

If you have beats that you want to cancel out each other but still move in the clips, like the two diffrent "chemical brothers"-drums and voice in the video, you but the clips in the same track still using follow actions but between the diffrent loops you add a space or scene.

hello i dont have a monome but interested in this...

could you cut out step 5&6 by just having duplicates of the same clip with no changed to the loop length or the start marker and simply set LEGATO on for all clips except the first one?

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:28 pm

can anyone tell me how to run the fake monome application?

i downloaded the base app and see many .mxb files....

id love to run this app on my touch screen

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:41 pm

That's entirely too cool.

How easy would this be to implement for someone who knows nothing about Max?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:44 pm

sweetjesus wrote:can anyone tell me how to run the fake monome application?

i downloaded the base app and see many .mxb files....

id love to run this app on my touch screen

Those files can be used if you installed max runtime (free).

You can basically run any max patch without ever having to buy Max/MSP (or just max like I did). And once you start to dig... There's no end to it.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:51 pm

Kodama wrote:That's entirely too cool.

How easy would this be to implement for someone who knows nothing about Max?

I went from somebody who knew nothing about max and progamming, to somebody who could make a very basic MIDI patch in 10 days.

There was a 30-day trial and loads of tutorials. Those tutorials are some of the best in the business.
I started a little after Andreas did. And I'm only 1/10th of where he is with this app.
It doesn't come by itself. The more you tweak, the quicker you learn that somebody else made a little object or patch that saves you hours...

You can go to the max forum and ask if somebody has an absurd patch like a midi controlled sheep.
They'll tell you to do a bloody search and you'll end up with enough of those patches to start a little farm.
I'm not even making this up. Go search

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:04 pm

ok got the runtime thingie and opening up seperate parts of the monome base pack...

i cant find a how to on how one gets the 'fake' app to function.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:07 pm

okay i can figure out im not setting the Serial IO patch correctly...

itook4lefts · Post by **itook4lefts** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:36 pm

ahlstrominfo - very nice work. i've been meaning to have a play with this for a while. keep it up.

Kodama wrote:That's entirely too cool.

How easy would this be to implement for someone who knows nothing about Max?

this doesn't use max, it's using ChucK. it's a bit like C. i looked at it for a while, but it was too hard for me (or at least, i don7t have time to study it). you could do the same thing in max, like hoffman says, it's really not as hard to get into as everyone says. it's just expensive