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I am becoming a producer!

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:17 pm
by Needs2Know
Well the road to a Jedi is a long one! I've been at this for some time and finally got the gear I needed and now I'm actually putting things together the way I wanted for the first time since 2002!(as of yesterday). When I first got Live 4 lite, I figured maybe I would just use that in place of a DAW. But then decided on a Protools system. After my protools stopped working I turned back to Live for DAW type things.

I actually put together some stuff by useing the session view to make clips (one clip per track) then dragging them into the arrange view building up the mix that way. One thing i like about LIVE is the warp markers in the clip edit field and the ability to nudge things to offset the timing. Produced a few tracks but didnt really feel like it was anything special. so..

Decided to get a good synth ie Virus. But then needed a really good DAW so I got Logic. Almost got DP. After doing this and working with these things I drew up a little flow chart:

LOGIC ----> PEAK -----> LIVE
(mix) (master) (perform)

I've spent about $8200 this year on gear and almost have of that was wasted on software and hardware I didnt need ie: machine drum $1400, Machfive $300, ProTools 002 $2000(stopped working and they wont help me.)

BTW I'm not saying because i'm not usiing protools, machfive, machined drum, or Live to mix (initially) that these arent ausome tools to use in your studio. Its just a hindsight thing for my own preference. And opions are like assholes...everyone has one.

While I have a general working knowledge of Peak and Live I'm not a pro using them yet just as I have much to learn about every thing else. There are tons of things my two midi controllers can do but figureing out how to talor their useage is another thing all together.

Moving to Chicago too. That should be a good thing for my music indevors. I want to collaborate!

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:53 pm
by aburgener
jesus christ.... $8000

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:18 pm
by Needs2Know
shit just broken down...

total spent ... $11,244.00
useful gear will continue to use ... $7,270
gear i bought that wont really use ... $3,974

could try to sell some of this stuff on ebay but cant sell a broken protools system and both my machfives(win and mac) are not selling. my machine drum has a sticky step key. anyone want it for a grand?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:22 pm
by LOFA
good news! Keep it up. Isn't amazing how fast the biils add up?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:26 pm
by Novel
You should transfer those credit card balances to Discover with a 0% APR for 12 months and that'll clear the decks for another go

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:06 pm
by ChiDJ
Needs2Know wrote:shit just broken down...

total spent ... $11,244.00
useful gear will continue to use ... $7,270
gear i bought that wont really use ... $3,974

could try to sell some of this stuff on ebay but cant sell a broken protools system and both my machfives(win and mac) are not selling. my machine drum has a sticky step key. anyone want it for a grand?

It's now time for you to become a member here:

http://www.gearslutz.com

Congrats!

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:01 pm
by Daim
hehe i know people with almost 50 vinyl releases who only are using software

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:04 pm
by Tone Deft
Sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken. Show us your hits.


Best of luck!!

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:36 pm
by djadonis206
honestly I don't think I've spent a dime on any kind of music production stuff over the course of the last year - no I bought dub delay for $30 bucks

funny and over the last year I've had more tracks come out and even done more tracks of my own

that's interesting ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:41 pm
by darkcatt
Tone Deft wrote:Sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken. Show us your hits.


Best of luck!!

THats freaking hillarious

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:56 pm
by ethios4
but what happens when you run out of presets?!?
No one actually touches those knobs and shit, do they?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:02 pm
by anti-banausic
darkcatt wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:Sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken. Show us your hits.


Best of luck!!

THats freaking hillarious
While funny, the OP did say he was "becoming" a producer. IE, not there quite yet.

Why not encourage?!?!

Best,
AB

Oh, right. Fragile eqos.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:04 pm
by Tone Deft
I honestly did mean best of luck with all the best intentions.


/runs off to join the circus.

Re: I am becoming a producer!

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:06 pm
by jeskola
Needs2Know wrote:Well the road to a Jedi is a long one! I've been at this for some time and finally got the gear I needed and now I'm actually putting things together the way I wanted for the first time since 2002!(as of yesterday). When I first got Live 4 lite, I figured maybe I would just use that in place of a DAW. But then decided on a Protools system. After my protools stopped working I turned back to Live for DAW type things.

I actually put together some stuff by useing the session view to make clips (one clip per track) then dragging them into the arrange view building up the mix that way. One thing i like about LIVE is the warp markers in the clip edit field and the ability to nudge things to offset the timing. Produced a few tracks but didnt really feel like it was anything special. so..

Decided to get a good synth ie Virus. But then needed a really good DAW so I got Logic. Almost got DP. After doing this and working with these things I drew up a little flow chart:

LOGIC ----> PEAK -----> LIVE
(mix) (master) (perform)

I've spent about $8200 this year on gear and almost have of that was wasted on software and hardware I didnt need ie: machine drum $1400, Machfive $300, ProTools 002 $2000(stopped working and they wont help me.)

BTW I'm not saying because i'm not usiing protools, machfive, machined drum, or Live to mix (initially) that these arent ausome tools to use in your studio. Its just a hindsight thing for my own preference. And opions are like assholes...everyone has one.

While I have a general working knowledge of Peak and Live I'm not a pro using them yet just as I have much to learn about every thing else. There are tons of things my two midi controllers can do but figureing out how to talor their useage is another thing all together.

Moving to Chicago too. That should be a good thing for my music indevors. I want to collaborate!

good god man
8O

a macbook, ableton and blue would suffice

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:23 pm
by stale bread
everyone has to go through what you're going through to some degree, to find out what one needs to know is the right set up for them. I myself went in a circle from straight hardware scoffing at software to having the sky open up and getting rid of all of my hardware and finally to understanding that unity in mind spirit and machine is really the best route for me ie: the best thing for me turned out to be a mixture of hardware/software and osx/xp. Now I'm in a nirvana of sorts with my guitars/bass, mpc, turntables and macbook Live/softsynths. the problem with being this happy is you don't care about not making enough money.