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Hello there fellow Ableton crew

I was wondering if you could help me out with some info... im going to be setting up a web site providing patches for the built in Live instruments & I wanted to know what people where looking for in thier sounds, this will obviously help me make the right stuff and hopefully provide you with some decent sounds to use in Live as well! Everyone that answers I promise to send you a free bank of sounds (via PM) before the site goes online.

Thanks a lot guys and I hope I can make some stuff that you will all want to use!

Carl.


BTW easiest way for me to bring together the info is if you answer like this

1 - a
2 - b
3 - a
4 - techno
5 - a

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1 Would you prefer to get patches for the Simpler & Impulse Instruments?

a) Separately
b) Bundled together

2 Have you bought?

a) Sampler
b) Operator
c) Both

3 How would you like to buy your sounds? (in terms of category)

a) Sound type (synth bass, synth pad, electric bass etc)
b) Sold in genre (House, Techno, Drum & Bass etc)
c) Instrument exclusive (Juno 60, Jupiter 8, 909 etc)


4 What kind of music do you make most of the time?

5 Would you like built in Ableton FX chains included in your patches?

a) Yes and I can turn them off if I don’t like them anyway
b) Its not important to me

6 If you own sampler which do you use mainly for your drums?

a) Sampler
b) Impulse
c) Both about equally
d) Other VST mainly

7 How would you prefer to pay for your patches?

a) Credit / debit card
b) Paypal
c) Other (please say)

8 Would you like the opportunity to buy banks of patches from well-known producers?

a) Yes
b) Not really interested
c) No preference

9 What about studio interviews with artists, is that something you would be interested in?

a) Yes
b) Not really interested
c) No preference

10 Would you like to buy patches for other VST instruments on the same site?

a) Yes
b) No keep it Ableton specific
c) No preference

11 Would you like to hear demo songs made with the patches?

a) Yes
b) No
c) No preference

12 Do you use Reason as well as Ableton?

a) Yes
b) No

13 Any other comments / things you want / dont want in your patches?

Fuck I didn't know there was gonna be a quiz today, anyone got an extra #2 pencil? I think the clock's slow, I don't feel tardy...

1 b
Just to get the preset import done quickly.

2 c

3 a

4 loud

5 a
It's all about making macros that are effective, as in the latest Cov Ops Operator racks.

6 b
but both are groovy, encourage me to use Sampler for drums

7 a
Paypal sucks

8 c
Just make it funky. If I can learn from a producer by looking at his patches, that'd be GREAT, otherwise I just want them to sound good.

9 a

10 c

11 a
Clips are good too.

12 b


Good macros go a long way to getting legs out of a patch.

CLEAR instructions will help a lot. The new file management is odd, you WILL get users asking for help no matter how easy the install is.

Freebies generate business.

Don't forget just straight up FX racks too.

Making racks is not really a problem. Its naming 8 macro's for hundreds of racks thats doing my head in.
And keeping an eye on how many parts of my racks can be found in screenshots of future products of the other rack making dudes.
You know what they say about imitation and flattery.

Anyway, the really insane racks are to be unleashed very soon.
As this quizz suggests.. Not a day too soon
Some of that stuff has been in the making since 2004-2005.
Other things are still being polished as we speak.

The main things is... naming the macro's.
Apple + R, type name and click on next parameter.
Apple + R, type name and click on next parameter.
Apple + R, type name and click on next parameter.
Apple + R, type name and click on next parameter.
.....

My first child is likely to be named Dub Bass the 8th.

hoffman2k wrote:Making racks is not really a problem. Its naming 8 macro's for hundreds of racks thats doing my head in.

I thought that's what you had Machinate around for?

BTW I've made stuff with your clips that I thought would be cool to share with the forum in midi form, is it pretty much not cool to post .als sets with your devices them? I never have.

Tone Deft wrote:

hoffman2k wrote:Making racks is not really a problem. Its naming 8 macro's for hundreds of racks thats doing my head in.

I thought that's what you had Machinate around for?

BTW I've made stuff with your clips that I thought would be cool to share with the forum in midi form, is it pretty much not cool to post .als sets with your devices them? I never have.

Actually. I'm looking into this.

We all know that a dedicated site for racks doesn't do it.
Yet the stickie isn't cutting it either..

You cant start an online library without content.
And thats not really an issue for the CovOps, because content is something we have lots off.

We don't release a pack every month, firstly because both Andreas and I are busy people. Secondly, we dont just make romplers.
Its easy to sample a synth. But getting the most out of the samples is what we pride ourselves upon.
Same goes for all of the Live devices. Those puppies have been massacred

Anyway. I'm looking into a user area for users of Covert Operators stuff, just for the very reason you mentioned.
I've been getting submissions and tweaks of Covert Operator projects i even hardly remember.
They will have to go online some day

Tone Deft wrote:Fuck I didn't know there was gonna be a quiz today, anyone got an extra #2 pencil? I think the clock's slow, I don't feel tardy...

Good macros go a long way to getting legs out of a patch.

CLEAR instructions will help a lot. The new file management is odd, you WILL get users asking for help no matter how easy the install is.

Freebies generate business.

Don't forget just straight up FX racks too.

thanks for the answers & imput TD.... yep there will be freebies on the site for sure

anyone else? I dont wanna be shooting in the dark making a load of patches nobody wants... tell me what you want and ill make it basically

hoffman2k wrote:Making racks is not really a problem. Its naming 8 macro's for hundreds of racks thats doing my head in.
And keeping an eye on how many parts of my racks can be found in screenshots of future products of the other rack making dudes.
You know what they say about imitation and flattery.

Anyway, the really insane racks are to be unleashed very soon.
As this quizz suggests.. Not a day too soon

ah, so then I guess you know what they say about big ego's and empty space too?

mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:

hoffman2k wrote:Making racks is not really a problem. Its naming 8 macro's for hundreds of racks thats doing my head in.
And keeping an eye on how many parts of my racks can be found in screenshots of future products of the other rack making dudes.
You know what they say about imitation and flattery.

Anyway, the really insane racks are to be unleashed very soon.
As this quizz suggests.. Not a day too soon

ah, so then I guess you know what they say about big ego's and empty space too?

Which empty space would that be?

“It is the nature of the ego to take, and the nature of the spirit to share.”

You need a big shield if you're kicking ass anyway

What up Carl!

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1 Would you prefer to get patches for the Simpler & Impulse Instruments?

a) Separately
b) Bundled together

2 Have you bought?

a) Sampler
b) Operator
c) Both
d) Niether

3 How would you like to buy your sounds? (in terms of category)

a) Sound type (synth bass, synth pad, electric bass etc)
b) Sold in genre (House, Techno, Drum & Bass etc)
c) Instrument exclusive (Juno 60, Jupiter 8, 909 etc)


4 What kind of music do you make most of the time?

Techno / Electro House

5 Would you like built in Ableton FX chains included in your patches?

a) Yes and I can turn them off if I don’t like them anyway
b) Its not important to me

6 If you own sampler which do you use mainly for your drums?

a) Sampler
b) Impulse
c) Both about equally
d) Other VST mainly

7 How would you prefer to pay for your patches?

a) Credit / debit card
b) Paypal
c) Other (please say)

8 Would you like the opportunity to buy banks of patches from well-known producers?

a) Yes
b) Not really interested
c) No preference

9 What about studio interviews with artists, is that something you would be interested in?

a) Yes
b) Not really interested
c) No preference

10 Would you like to buy patches for other VST instruments on the same site?

a) Yes
b) No keep it Ableton specific
c) No preference

11 Would you like to hear demo songs made with the patches?

a) Yes
b) No
c) No preference

12 Do you use Reason as well as Ableton?

a) Yes
b) No

13 Any other comments / things you want / dont want in your patches?


Just chunky dirty synth sounds I can use in my production - thanks Carl

Great Idea!


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Oh yeah, some sick latin and african percussion beats wouldn't hurt

not to mention chants and what not

1 Would you prefer to get patches for the Simpler & Impulse Instruments?

a) Separately

2 Have you bought?

c) Both

3 How would you like to buy your sounds? (in terms of category)

b) Sold in genre (House, Techno, Drum & Bass etc)

4 What kind of music do you make most of the time?
House, Techno and alot of Rock

5 Would you like built in Ableton FX chains included in your patches?

b) Its not important to me

6 If you own sampler which do you use mainly for your drums?

b) Impulse

7 How would you prefer to pay for your patches?

a) Credit / debit card
b) Paypal


8 Would you like the opportunity to buy banks of patches from well-known producers?

a) Yes

9 What about studio interviews with artists, is that something you would be interested in?

b) Not really interested

10 Would you like to buy patches for other VST instruments on the same site?

b) No keep it Ableton specific


11 Would you like to hear demo songs made with the patches?

a) Yes

12 Do you use Reason as well as Ableton?

b) No

13 Any other comments / things you want / dont want in your patches?
A huge varitey and you are onto a winner

djadonis206 wrote:Oh yeah, some sick latin and african percussion beats wouldn't hurt

not to mention chants and what not

duly noted mate

grizzler wrote: A huge varitey and you are onto a winner

ok, thanks Grizzler

1 a

2 c

3 a

4
What kind of music do you make most of the time?
- IDM (terrible genre name, but you get it)

5 b
Would you like built in Ableton FX chains included in your patches?
- Rather see them as separate racks..

6 b

7 b

8 b
Would you like the opportunity to buy banks of patches from well-known producers?
- No.. never..
No offense, but I really dislike these kind of things..
Marketing-wise it's probably a smart thing, but, well, you know..

9 a

10 b
Would you like to buy patches for other VST instruments on the same site?
- Keeping it strictly Ableton sharpens your profile..

11 a
Would you like to hear demo songs made with the patches?
As previews to what the patches sound like, yes..

12 a

13
Any other comments / things you want / dont want in your patches?
- As there is too much four-to-the-floor orientated stuff available already I would like to see some more 'alternative' dedication as well..

1 Would you prefer to get patches for the Simpler & Impulse Instruments?

a) Separately
b) Bundled together

2 Have you bought?

a) Sampler
b) Operator
c) Neither

3 How would you like to buy your sounds? (in terms of category)

a) Sound type (synth bass, synth pad, electric bass etc)
b) Sold in genre (House, Techno, Drum & Bass etc)
c) Instrument exclusive (Juno 60, Jupiter 8, 909 etc)


4 What kind of music do you make most of the time?

House (prog, techy, tribal, minimal, deep, i like it all!)

5 Would you like built in Ableton FX chains included in your patches?

a) Yes and I can turn them off if I don’t like them anyway
b) Its not important to me

6 If you own sampler which do you use mainly for your drums?

a) Sampler
b) Impulse
c) Both about equally
d) Other VST mainly

7 How would you prefer to pay for your patches?

a) Credit / debit card
b) Paypal
c) Other (please say)

8 Would you like the opportunity to buy banks of patches from well-known producers?

a) Yes
b) Not really interested
c) No preference

9 What about studio interviews with artists, is that something you would be interested in?

a) Yes, depending on the content.
b) Not really interested
c) No preference

10 Would you like to buy patches for other VST instruments on the same site?

a) Yes
b) No keep it Ableton specific
c) No preference

11 Would you like to hear demo songs made with the patches?

a) Yes, for a quick preview
b) No
c) No preference

12 Do you use Reason as well as Ableton?

a) Yes
b) No

13 Any other comments / things you want / dont want in your patches?

Just do it