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FL Studio 4.5.1 as host/client

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:49 am
by Pauldog
Anyone got experience of teaming Live3 with FL Studio 4.5.1 (new fruityloops...)?

FL now supports Rewire (and does a bit of audio recordig for what it's worth), so it should work... but will they find each other?

I'm a novice, and working out what to buy to play around with. Favouring FL + Live at the moment, but don't want to screw up.

Not planning on getting stuck into cubase yet either, but hoping I'll be able to produce reasonably finished products just with FL and Live - whaddya reckon?

Ableton haven't tested it yet, so cheers for your useful tips.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:11 pm
by Guest
I have been giggin with Live as the master to FLRW since the first FLRW beta about 5 months ago--haven't used Reason once since. It works great. I think it a great companion to live---vstis, dx, great midi recording and editing, sweet step sequencer and piano rolls, etc. I think Live and FL is the ultimate one two punch for getting song ideas together quickly, and for performing live, making everything from scratch for each tune.


Ryan

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:41 pm
by Paul Dog
Wicked.
I've been using Fruity 3.3 for a while, just arseing about on an old 386.

Finally going for massive upgrade now, and kept wandering if I should shift to Reason, but all those racks and patch leads man... too much hassle for my brain.

Nice. If FL Studio makes a good client, then Ableton and FL have a new customer. Gonna run them with an Ozone. Hours of fun. And use a bit of Audiomulch to mash things up first.

Thanks anyway.
A reply in about an hour, cool. Mr Kleine was right.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:17 am
by Guest
I'm trying to set this combo up, but I can't get the rewire correctly configured. I'm using the latest live and fl..
I'm trying to record atmosphere into live, but I can't get figure out how.
I've been trying this for hours, could someone take a couple of seconds to walk me through the right steps tia

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:36 pm
by Guest
In FL, go to the channel where you have your atmosphere vsti. left click on the little box in the step seq. that is atmosphere. This should bring up the channel dialouge box. At the top right of this box is the fx routing channel (1-64). Try routing the atmosphere to channel 3 by using the mouse to change the default "1" for the fx number. Then, use the icons at the top right of the FL screen to open up the fx dialouge box. left click on the "fx 3" channel strip. At the bottom of the box, there are in and out routing boxes. If you have properly opened up FL AFTER LIVE (thus FL is the slave), then the rewire channels should be available as "outs" for the FL fx channels. Choose whatever FLRW channel you want (lets say "3" again), and then go to Live and select that FLRW channel as a "live in" on a track in live, arm it, record it, and you should be good to go. This may seem a touch confusing, but I find the routing possibilities to be marvelous--I perfrom live with FL and Live every week, and make all my songs live on the spot, building up loops. I use a midi drum controller to record into FL step seq., and the routing scheme I described above allows me to send each type of drum (kick, snares, hats, etc.) to a seperate Live track, which makes it easy to use effects and crossfade out particular drums, but not the whole mix. Good Luck

Ryan

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:42 pm
by another guest
Anonymous wrote:then go to Live and select that FLRW channel as a "live in" on a track in live, arm it, record it, and you should be good to go.
Ryan
Is this feature disabled in the demo? I really want to see it work before I plunk down $$$

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:08 pm
by Guest
yes it works, thats why I described how to do it and that I use it all the time. In the "Out" drop down menu at the bottom of the FL fx box, there should be "FL 1-16" available at the bottom right--these are the 16 rewire channels. It works, try it, maybe even say thanks for giving detailed instructions here once you get it to work. And FL is definitely worth the measly $130 it costs--it is the shit.

Ryan

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:53 pm
by another guest
Anonymous wrote:And FL is definitely worth the measly $130 it costs--it is the shit.
You misunderstood (a couple of things):

- I have full, registered version of FL studio
- I got that end of it working (simply by calling up FL after Live) even before coming to this forum and seeing this thread
- I do not see FL/Rewire client in the drop down of the track in the demo version of Live which costs substantially more than $130

Meanwhile, I'd like to know for sure if Live's Rewire host is disabled in it's demo or if I'm missing something...

Regarding gratitude, I didn't start this thread (hence the name 'another guest') but I don't mind leaving you with these thoughts:

Great thoughts, like great deeds, need no trumpet. (James M. Bailey)
Thank-you. Thank-you very much. (Elvis Presley)

no

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:31 pm
by raapie
"Meanwhile, I'd like to know for sure if Live's Rewire host is disabled in it's demo or if I'm missing something... "
No it's fully functional. I only have the demo. Maybe I will buy FL since it's sounding cool... but I already have too many stuff... need a more minimal setup :)

Re: no

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:20 pm
by Guest
raapie wrote:
No it's fully functional. I only have the demo.
OK, I got it -- You have to have "In/Out" turned on in the "View" menu; I kept dorking with the 'device' drop down.

FL Studio is worth a lot more than what they charge -- plus all upgrades, major and minor, are included in the initial price. It's complicated and doesn't have any wav stretching but it's an unbeatable deal.

I'm very much looking fwd to tying these two apps together to see what happens. On to midi routing....[/i]

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:21 pm
by another guest
oh -- and thanks ;)

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:47 am
by pauldog
I did start this thread, and I'm glad I did.
Get my box of tricks next week, inc FL and Live... can't wait to play.

Still imagining quite how it'll all work - can get my head around recording loops (ie individual FL patterns I s'pose) into Live then sequencing and messing with them there. But not sure how running the two at the same time is going to work - streaming whole FL mixes into Live on separate tracks and stuff... gulp.

Anyway, thanks Ryan ... I might be back here looking for more tips in a coupla weeks, but for now I'll play and learn.

Offset manipulation - dog's bollocks :o)

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:24 pm
by beardedone
Is there a step by step guide or tutorial on how to rewire Live to FLS? I cannot get it to work?

Thanks,
Gordon

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:38 pm
by Guest
check out the fl website, i think there is a thread on this there...

Re: FL Studio 4.5.1 as host/client

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:31 pm
by Kiwidub
Thanks all, FL + Ableton is epic

I have been making FL projects, saving all the midi links in FL studio itself and then open Ableton Live add a Midi channel/FL Studio Vsti(muti), set the tempo the same in both Ableton and FL Studio then jam out! :D

from here you can open a new audio channel and send the midi channel volume(FL studio) to the Audio channel and record your FL Studio jam.

Have Fun